Results not typical said:
2ds said:
Results not typical said:
The Liberals are a cohesive, mature party. Labor is not really a party, it is a group of factions clawing for control of available turf. That is enough for me.
That's hilarious, after Howard gutted the party.... Libs are exactly in this position, Howard removed anyone who dissented with him and left behind a sick party unable to think for its self without their glorious leader.
Any facts to back that up of is it simply your opinion?
The way the party fell apart after his 2007 defeat?
Part of being a leader/CEO is proper succession planning, to be able to do this you need peers, not underlings, you need people able to step up into positions, people who can think.
Howard systematically squashed any dissension in the party during his 4 terms (citation needed ;P)
This left only Costello to pick up the reigns, when Howard stepped down, but Howard got greedy and refused to hand over power as he was supposed to.
Only after losing the election did Howard try to hand over power, Costello quite rightly refused the poisoned chalice he was offered and quit.
The party was in turmoil unable to properly execute because a power vacuum was left behind, anyone who would have been able to step up was no longer there.
You can't honestly tell me you think Abbott has good political sense.
As much as I didn't like Howard he was a shrewd if uncharismatic politician. Compared to The current bumbling of Rudd and Abbott he was amazing.
Kevin tried to do the same thing in the labor party and that is why they outed him, their only mistake was not squashing him properly when they had the chance, against their own better judgement they took him back several months ago because they thought they might win, this is the same greed that lost Howard the election in 2007, doesn't look like it is serving them very well now does it....
*shrugs* feel free to disagree with me but if you try to tell me the Liberals are executing policy + politics right now as well as they were when Howard was at the helm I will not be able to stop laughing at you.