Waiting 4 month for lunars from Perthbullion

[silversearcher]

This isn't Perth Bullion's fault. The blame lies squarely with the manufacturer and their production process aimed at churning out quantity over quality as cheaply as possible. There is no pride the product, just a relentless pursuit of profit. You know what they think of collectors? They see a sucker, a source of profit.

It is there fault Pete. They know full well after all this time there has been a issue for years. They should dump the products of these mints, or send back inventory. If not, start sourcing a product from certain mints that guarantee that their silver is free of impairment. You rarely find a milk spotted coins from the RAM even on 999 silver they sell. So it's possible that coins can be manufactured milk free. Honestly, they should dump their dealerships and move on. And there is something called integrity ! This is not just Perth Bullion, it's across the board. I know Perth Bullion have copped it in this thread, but other dealers are at fault also. There is not even a disclaimer mentioning that there is possible cause of milk spotting on their websites. As long as there are dealers out there who continue to take in orders and sell at all costs, then there is no reason for the mints to stop manufacturing crap. The buck stops with the dealers.

Yes there is dipstick!

Nicks, scratches or white blemishes may appear from time to time as part of the production process, this is considered normal.

http://www.perthbullion.com/shop/detail/pmkang16sco1/

Can you also find that disclaimer on the ultra relief and the koalas mentioned in the thread or the myriad of other coins listed on their site or other dealers sites ( apart from Maples ) ? The general public would really really benefit from your wisdom.

 

[clear]

Some people are missing one important part of the post. And of course PerthBullion and the small time wanna be dealers keep avoiding the fact the he keeps receiving milky coins on arrival also.

This isn't Perth Bullion's fault. The blame lies squarely with the manufacturer and their production process aimed at churning out quantity over quality as cheaply as possible. There is no pride the product, just a relentless pursuit of profit. You know what they think of collectors? They see a sucker, a source of profit.

It is there fault Pete. They know full well after all this time there has been a issue for years. They should dump the products of these mints, or send back inventory. If not, start sourcing a product from certain mints that guarantee that their silver is free of impairment. You rarely find a milk spotted coins from the RAM even on 999 silver they sell. So it's possible that coins can be manufactured milk free. Honestly, they should dump their dealerships and move on. And there is something called integrity ! This is not just Perth Bullion, it's across the board. I know Perth Bullion have copped it in this thread, but other dealers are at fault also. There is not even a disclaimer mentioning that there is possible cause of milk spotting on their websites. As long as there are dealers out there who continue to take in orders and sell at all costs, then there is no reason for the mints to stop manufacturing crap. The buck stops with the dealers.

The buck stops with you, your very entertaining....

 

[clear]

Eliassamaha, it appears in good faith you waited till January and still nothing arrived. And in hope as we all do you wait, and you wait, and wait, then April arrives and the Panda still hasn't landed. Time to get the money back, and find another dealer that can do better job. Geez, my dealer sent me half ounce because he couldn't dispatch in his time frame he specified. You'll never get a apology off Perthbullion for the inconvenience either ! All you get is excuses, and you have to do all followup work. Because of their failure to provide goods on time, and deliver impaired bullion they lose clients that often purchase many thousands of dollars worth per annum. As a token gesture they should offer you some form of compensation, that is GOOD BUSINESS SENSE. But they would rather lose a regular customer.

And notice how Perthbullion tippy toed around your gripe about receiving milk spotted coins off them ? Who in their right mind would send a customer Koala's and ultra high relief coins with milk spot already on them ? Online orders are a good way this lot weed out the crap. Have a look some comments on Ebay on Perthbullion with less than 100% feedback, and then look at some other high profile dealers feedback with 100%. The proof is in the pudding.

Once again, I reiterate get your money back, don't worry about others defending Perthbullion. It's not their time or money at stake, if it was the tune would be different.

Ha ha I would lay a t--- in your parcel and send it express post, because you are so entertaining.

 

[fishtaco]

Some people are missing one important part of the post. And of course PerthBullion and the small time wanna be dealers keep avoiding the fact the he keeps receiving milky coins on arrival also.

This isn't Perth Bullion's fault. The blame lies squarely with the manufacturer and their production process aimed at churning out quantity over quality as cheaply as possible. There is no pride the product, just a relentless pursuit of profit. You know what they think of collectors? They see a sucker, a source of profit.

It is there fault Pete. They know full well after all this time there has been a issue for years. They should dump the products of these mints, or send back inventory. If not, start sourcing a product from certain mints that guarantee that their silver is free of impairment. You rarely find a milk spotted coins from the RAM even on 999 silver they sell. So it's possible that coins can be manufactured milk free. Honestly, they should dump their dealerships and move on. And there is something called integrity ! This is not just Perth Bullion, it's across the board. I know Perth Bullion have copped it in this thread, but other dealers are at fault also. There is not even a disclaimer mentioning that there is possible cause of milk spotting on their websites. As long as there are dealers out there who continue to take in orders and sell at all costs, then there is no reason for the mints to stop manufacturing crap. The buck stops with the dealers.

I am sure by now most ss members are fully aware of the problems that are occurring with many top mints silver bullion coin quality.

Have you purchased any of PB,s very own "Elements" rounds? I have and they are both cheap and great encapsulated quality, so in my opinion PB is trying to bypass the milking problems suffered by mass production low premium coins by having their own minted that is of acceptable quality. I am 100% sure PB would not send out to customers unacceptable quality elements rounds.

Now flippers are not interested in good quality non popular cheap for all to continually purchase silver coins/rounds, they are speculating on quick personal gains and thus take a chance. then some forever bitch and put others down like in this case Perth Bullion when there lotto numbers dont come in!

Just my opinion because I believe so many flippers are now part of the problem and ironically its the reason many start on silver stacking as so to avoid these flippers in all walks of life and products!

 

[Holdfast]

The End !

Thankyou for your inputs.

Summary

Miscomunication causes conflict and hostility.

Communication in a civil manner = outcomes.

Outcomes here = no one wins but hatred lingers...Fing fantastic guys!

If you have a similar problem with a dealer or member, work things out behind closed doors and be polite. Often conflict is resolved when the mis-understood is understood.

PAX

 

[silversearcher]

This isn't Perth Bullion's fault. The blame lies squarely with the manufacturer and their production process aimed at churning out quantity over quality as cheaply as possible. There is no pride the product, just a relentless pursuit of profit. You know what they think of collectors? They see a sucker, a source of profit.

It is there fault Pete. They know full well after all this time there has been a issue for years. They should dump the products of these mints, or send back inventory. If not, start sourcing a product from certain mints that guarantee that their silver is free of impairment. You rarely find a milk spotted coins from the RAM even on 999 silver they sell. So it's possible that coins can be manufactured milk free. Honestly, they should dump their dealerships and move on. And there is something called integrity ! This is not just Perth Bullion, it's across the board. I know Perth Bullion have copped it in this thread, but other dealers are at fault also. There is not even a disclaimer mentioning that there is possible cause of milk spotting on their websites. As long as there are dealers out there who continue to take in orders and sell at all costs, then there is no reason for the mints to stop manufacturing crap. The buck stops with the dealers.

I am sure by now most ss members are fully aware of the problems that are occurring with many top mints silver bullion coin quality.

Have you purchased any of PB,s very own "Elements" rounds? I have and they are both cheap and great encapsulated quality, so in my opinion PB is trying to bypass the milking problems suffered by mass production low premium coins by having their own minted that is of acceptable quality. I am 100% sure PB would not send out to customers unacceptable quality elements rounds.

Now flippers are not interested in good quality non popular cheap for all to continually purchase silver coins/rounds, they are speculating on quick personal gains and thus take a chance. then some forever bitch and put others down like in this case Perth Bullion when there lotto numbers dont come in!

Good point about flippers. As buyers we

Just my opinion because I believe many flippers are now part of the problem and ironically the reason many start silver stacking so to avoid these flippers in all walks of life and products!

What about long term collectors / investors ? At some point they would want to sell it off their stack in the future. I can see your point about the short term flipper buying a Zombuck and flipping before it turns milky and make a quick buck. But a vast majority are long term stackers, buy a Kook, Koala or a pamp bar today and resell many years down the track. I can only assume many including myself weigh up the risk factor now. It's just not worth buying anything that could potentially milk up in years to come. I say this, as many fellow stackers I speak to are venting the same sentiments.

 

[silversearcher]

http://i.imgur.com/3FJ2K0q.jpg

HAHA.....The Bullshit at THE PERTH MINT is dairy farm creamy thick these days. Apparently it has transmitted on to their coins also. :lol:

 

[Golden ChipMunk]

What about long term collectors / investors ? At some point they would want to sell it off their stack in the future. I can see your point about the short term flipper buying a Zombuck and flipping before it turns milky and make a quick buck. But a vast majority are long term stackers, buy a Kook, Koala or a pamp bar today and resell many years down the track. I can only assume many including myself weigh up the risk factor now. It's just not worth buying anything that could potentially milk up in years to come. I say this, as many fellow stackers I speak to are venting the same sentiments.

Weren't you the one that boycott buying those coins a year ago?

Don't know what this had to concern you???

Pages after pages of comments.

Thread after thread comments of bad mouth ....

The milkspot not killing the market, its you that kill the market.

Everyone knows silver are prong to milkspot. Tarnish n toning.

Don't like it stay out...

Wtf

 

[Eliassamaha]

It's like you said silversearcher just a bunch of small town wanna be insecure dealers who obviously know nothing of good customer service ganging up together on a unhappy customer to protect their interests of selling their crap for premium price

Now I know who to avoid and so do a lot

Anybody with a right mind will avoid these people because it's pretty obvious they treat their customers like crap

One in particular well know for taking "golden" advantage of naive people

 

[fishtaco]

It's like you said silversearcher just a bunch of small town wanna be insecure dealers who obviously know nothing of good customer service ganging up together on a unhappy customer to protect their interests of selling their crap for premium price

Now I know who to avoid and so do a lot

Anybody with a right mind will avoid these people because it's pretty obvious they treat their customers like crap

One in particular well know for taking "golden" advantage of naive people

You dont make any sense when you are talking about small town wanna be dealers ganging up on customers?

 

[barsenault]

This saga is quite funny. Just when I thought there might be an end. LOL.

 

[silversearcher]

It's like you said silversearcher just a bunch of small town wanna be insecure dealers who obviously know nothing of good customer service ganging up together on a unhappy customer to protect their interests of selling their crap for premium price

Now I know who to avoid and so do a lot

Anybody with a right mind will avoid these people because it's pretty obvious they treat their customers like crap

One in particular well know for taking "golden" advantage of naive people

Yep....When anyone mentions anything negative about a dealer the same bunch of people ( the shill gang come in to derail )..Here are the usual suspects- Chipmonk, Spannermonkey, Clear, Alec, and where the hell is Eurecka moments. There are a few more, but it's the same pattern HAHA. I like Fishtaco, as I consider him a stacker, and I think he buys direct from Perth Bullion and Perth Mint, so he can cherry pick the good stuff. As for those buying online that's not the case.

 

[Golden ChipMunk]

It's like you said silversearcher just a bunch of small town wanna be insecure dealers who obviously know nothing of good customer service ganging up together on a unhappy customer to protect their interests of selling their crap for premium price

Now I know who to avoid and so do a lot

Anybody with a right mind will avoid these people because it's pretty obvious they treat their customers like crap

One in particular well know for taking "golden" advantage of naive people

Yep....When anyone mentions anything negative about a dealer the same bunch of people ( the shill gang come in to derail )..Here are the usual suspects- Chipmonk, Spannermonkey, Clear, Alec, and where the hell is Eurecka moments. There are a few more, but it's the same pattern HAHA. I like Fishtaco, as I consider him a stacker, and I think he buys direct from Perth Bullion and Perth Mint, so he can cherry pick the good stuff. As for those buying online that's not the case.

:lol:

What happen to not to get me involved but mentioning my name again ???

I only said when your posts is inappropriate!!! That all your posts need guidance ...
and I have help many members here resolving some issues. As I am here in Perth.
I wish I was a dealer but I am not. Just normal everyday member.

That what a forum is about... but it seem all your posts does have negative impact.

 

[silversearcher]

It's like you said silversearcher just a bunch of small town wanna be insecure dealers who obviously know nothing of good customer service ganging up together on a unhappy customer to protect their interests of selling their crap for premium price

Now I know who to avoid and so do a lot

Anybody with a right mind will avoid these people because it's pretty obvious they treat their customers like crap

One in particular well know for taking "golden" advantage of naive people

Yep....When anyone mentions anything negative about a dealer the same bunch of people ( the shill gang come in to derail )..Here are the usual suspects- Chipmonk, Spannermonkey, Clear, Alec, and where the hell is Eurecka moments. There are a few more, but it's the same pattern HAHA. I like Fishtaco, as I consider him a stacker, and I think he buys direct from Perth Bullion and Perth Mint, so he can cherry pick the good stuff. As for those buying online that's not the case.

:lol:

What happen to not to get me involved but mentioning my name again ???

I only said when your posts is inappropriate!!! That all your posts need guidance ...
and I have help many members here resolving some issues. As I am here in Perth.
I wish I was a dealer but I am not. Just normal everyday member.

That what a forum is about... but it seem all your posts does have negative impact.

Ignored....There should be a app for that !

 

[clear]

Yep....When anyone mentions anything negative about a dealer the same bunch of people ( the shill gang come in to derail )..Here are the usual suspects- Chipmonk, Spannermonkey, Clear, Alec, and where the hell is Eurecka moments. There are a few more, but it's the same pattern HAHA. I like Fishtaco, as I consider him a stacker, and I think he buys direct from Perth Bullion and Perth Mint, so he can cherry pick the good stuff. As for those buying online that's not the case.

:lol:

What happen to not to get me involved but mentioning my name again ???

I only said when your posts is inappropriate!!! That all your posts need guidance ...
and I have help many members here resolving some issues. As I am here in Perth.
I wish I was a dealer but I am not. Just normal everyday member.

That what a forum is about... but it seem all your posts does have negative impact.

Ignored....There should be a app for that !

you should try ignoring yourself whenever you get the urge to write, your comments reveal your immaturity and ignorance, there must be other forums more suitable for big-time wackers like yourself.

 

[silversearcher]

Eliassamaha, I hope your working on getting that refund ? Sounds like the city of Perth really needs more competition with bullion dealers. The best place to park a dealership is as close to Perth Bullion as possible. Work long hours, sell quality goods, undercut your rivals and keep overheads as low as possible. And of course same day shipping after payment. Easy stuff, I do it all the time. In no time at all your rival will be sitting on the curb in his undies. There's a golden oppurtunity awaiting someone in Western Australia. Competition works a treat down in Melbourne. No reason why our Western cousins can't have the same.

 

[Eliassamaha]

Eliassamaha, I hope your working on getting that refund ? Sounds like the city of Perth really needs more competition with bullion dealers. The best place to park a dealership is as close to Perth Bullion as possible. Work long hours, sell quality goods, undercut your rivals and keep overheads as low as possible. And of course same day shipping after payment. Easy stuff, I do it all the time. In no time at all your rival will be sitting on the curb in his undies. There's a golden oppurtunity awaiting someone in Western Australia. Competition works a treat down in Melbourne. No reason why our Western cousins can't have the same.

Bro it's that easy all we need is few million dollars

Well wipe these people out

Any Tom dick and Harry knows with coins condition is key and stackers can be quit picky obviously except for the shill gang and their puppets who seem to think with coins it's best to unload crap for a premium price, insult the customer for complaining, gang bash a customer who tries reasoning with them, play dumb and argue that the sky is green

 

[atlas]

A couple of years ago I ordered a mixed tube of maples and peregrine falcons from Perth Bullion.

Most of the coins had spots when they arrived (some heavily), but at the time I was just about to travel couldn't do much about it. I forgot about it and 6 months later when I was adding to my stack I remembered. Too late to do anything about it by then. Really pissed me off at the time.

 

[Flyinfree]

A couple of years ago I ordered a mixed tube of maples and peregrine falcons from Perth Bullion.

Most of the coins had spots when they arrived (some heavily), but at the time I was just about to travel couldn't do much about it. I forgot about it and 6 months later when I was adding to my stack I remembered. Too late to do anything about it by then. Really pissed me off at the time.

Well, the only positive thing is..........Silver's milky spot is a special certificate of authenticity, when you see them, you don't need to worry about fake issue.

 

[Ipv6Ready]

Ive got some on backorder for queens beast, I hope that doesn't get delayed at all