The global economic collapse still hasn't happened...

"King World News" looks like some armchair genius' site, put together is a basement with a WYSWYG software.

I think "THE CRASH" won't just happen "by itself". If something terrible happens (socio-economic, but not only, even an earthquake or mega thunderstorm could trigger
it), then the bricks could fall like a domino...

We could still go on like this for years, because "trust" is keeping the system afloat. Just like Bitcoin :) They're all built on sand foundations...
 
KWN is what I would term a "Metals Pumping" site. Otherwise know as "Fake News Opinion for the True Believer".

Nobody knows anything and you're better off if you ignore the Chicken Littles and keep your own counsel and keep your own powder dry.
 
as simple as no re-set
when the US insist that the dollar can be force feed to the world, but the world walk away and take gold with it in one hand
the gold in one hand is accepted through out the land and sea, the US dollar is of no use in any other territory, as in no one wants them, people prefer to take yellow only
 
It's odd, now I can read more and more about "collapse" in mainstream media. Some sites have 3-4 weekly articles on the subject.
And real estate prices are still going higher! People still spending madly... rabid consumers.

In 2011-2012 it felt a lot like "it's coming". In 2013 even more so... then, after the dip of gold there seemed to be a period of quietness ("before the storm"?).

2014, 2015, 2016, 2017... nothing in particular economy-wise besides Venezuela, Turkish economic crisis. One could easily have thought "it's not going to happen",
but the European migrant crisis has added more to the scare.

In 2018 the "fear of collapse" has hit mainstream media. Now it's all out there, everyone can hear about it, read about it.

I think it's the panic of the masses that's worse than anything else.

Not the markets, not this or that, it's the panic of the "common people" that could ignite the crisis.
 
as simple as no re-set
when the US insist that the dollar can be force feed to the world, but the world walk away and take gold with it in one hand
the gold in one hand is accepted through out the land and sea, the US dollar is of no use in any other territory, as in no one wants them, people prefer to take yellow only

You do know that when we change to gold standard, the US will still do well because they have both oil and food but countries with factories that need to buy oil and food and baby infant formula will be in deep shit.
 
Yet, some continue the endless scaremongering, advertising their books and shows, thank God, the global economic collapse hasn't happened. :p

...yet :/

The panic of '08, the Greek economic crisis, the Cyprus "bail ins", the Brexit, the West-Russia warmongering, the Ukraine crisis, the increasing US debt, the Fed's rate hikes, the oil price crash, the petrodollar system's crash, the shale oil trend, the gold repatriations and so on...

...one thing I'm really afraid of 'til today is: DEFLATION. This is one thing I can feel on my own skin and it really seems like we're spiraling down badly... Interest rates are already so low, it ain't worth keeping your money at the bank.

Any thoughts on whether we're getting rapidly closer to it or, whether it will or will not happen? I'd like to read your thoughts...


As long as one has worked and earned out of middle class, there is no such thing as global collapse.
A recession or collapse is a opportunity to further the distance to working class
 
As long as one has worked and earned out of middle class, there is no such thing as global collapse.
A recession or collapse is a opportunity to further the distance to working class

There's no global collapse because the great depression style global collapse hasn't come yet. We're living in good times for the last 70 years because the US is policing much of the free world and dictatorships don't get big enough to endanger the world economy. Now with US power receding, dictatorships are rising and soon someone with sufficient power will go crazy and wants to be a great conqueror just like it happened in Japan and Germany many times in history.
 
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using a 70 years old example for the future, it is so wrong to even use today's example like yellow vests or brexit or even the self-declared president of Venezuela
well nothing is new under the sun

oil is just 20% of fuel usage, there are other portions that can be increased, like nuclear power can be boosted up to 70% etc
the US has the most coal, yet they would be using them in the future as they are in decline
its like looking at the 20+ lanes of high speed rails in China, we don't see such a scene in US anytime soon
There are more people in EURASIA, it will continue for a few life times
 
There's no global collapse because the great depression style global collapse hasn't come yet. We're living in good times for the last 70 years because the US is policing much of the free world and dictatorships don't get big enough to endanger the world economy. Now with US power receding, dictatorships are rising and soon someone with sufficient power will go crazy and wants to be a great conqueror just like it happened in Japan and Germany many times in history.

Think in 50 years when India and China are the number 1 and number 2 largest economies.
The First WATER War with China and India as protagonist will dwarf WW2....
imagine the motivation to win when 3 billion people are depending on the dwindling ice to replenish either the Yangtze or Ganges. Dam anyone?

People who have the means will still live in relative luxury.
Pain and suffering are for the masses and the unlucky rich.
 
Think in 50 years when India and China are the number 1 and number 2 largest economies.
The First WATER War with China and India as protagonist will dwarf WW2....
imagine the motivation to win when 3 billion people are depending on the dwindling ice to replenish either the Yangtze or Ganges. Dam anyone?

People who have the means will still live in relative luxury.
Pain and suffering are for the masses and the unlucky rich.

Wow, water war, it will really be too far into the future. I don't know if we will get to that stage. The consumption in China is currently driven by single child millennials supported by their parents and 2 sets of grandparents. This kind of consumption won't last more than 15-20 years because their parents will grow old and soon retire and themselves will have problems supporting themselves and don't even mention the grandparents in their 80s.

In order for parents to be able to support their adult kids, they need to profit from the properties they invested in, from rentals and flips, but the high property prices in turn makes it very difficult for the kids to have families and have many kids. It becomes a vicious cycle that cannot sustain for more than 2 generations, unless you start importing new people.

I know this very well because Singapore is experiencing this to a greater degree, the government is only managing this demographic issue by importing nearly 100% of the population in the last 30 years. Importing people works for tiny countries with population of only couple million people. It may even work for "small" countries like Australia or Canada with 20-30 million people.
 
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Most people have no idea how currency works or is manipulated. They just wonder why they have no savings and can barely pay rent and buy food.
That wont be a problem anymore when they are eating dog stew and digging through dumpsters with their kids.
And like history shows us it will only divide the citizens while the politicians laugh at whatever they create next for the sheeple, their little tax slaves.
The fiat policies never change, just the puppets.
Whatever happens the sheeple can only blame themselves for sitting idly by and content in the empty promises and campaign slogans. It wont matter which side you pick when they throw us all under the bus. None of them are on our side.
Freedom will then take on a new meaning....rat stew, dog stew, dumpster scrapings, take your pick! Your free to choose!
 
Wow, water war, it will really be too far into the future. I don't know if we will get to that stage. The consumption in China is currently driven by single child millennials supported by their parents and 2 sets of grandparents. This kind of consumption won't last more than 15-20 years because their parents will grow old and soon retire and themselves will have problems supporting themselves and don't even mention the grandparents in their 80s.

In order for parents to be able to support their adult kids, they need to profit from the properties they invested in, from rentals and flips, but the high property prices in turn makes it very difficult for the kids to have families and have many kids. It becomes a vicious cycle that cannot sustain for more than 2 generations, unless you start importing new people.

I know this very well because Singapore is experiencing this to a greater degree, the government is only managing this demographic issue by importing nearly 100% of the population in the last 30 years. Importing people works for tiny countries with population of only couple million people. It may even work for "small" countries like Australia or Canada with 20-30 million people.

China is becoming the West: less children, but higher consumption. The link between demography and economy is similar.
Less people will have to "take care" of more people. And that's unsustainable.

The real estate "boom" is also unsustainable: more and more real estate developments are appearing around the World.
Chinese cities, Dubai, Spain, Italy are already experiencing "emptiness".
There's simply too many houses and apartments compared with the population.

Still, buying an apartment today is almost impossible for younger generations due to the high price.
Prices are driven up by real estate speculators who just build, build, build and sell even what's "about to be built".
You can "buy" what's only planned to be built. But it doesn't exist yet. Still, it's usually unaffordable.

See the connection?

Less people (population decline), but more housing/properties and, higher costs per property.

Normally, the West, Australia, New Zealand, Japan (and prolly after a while even China) would end up with less people,
but far more properties. Empty houses, ghost towns.

Forced migration from 3rd World countries "fills" the "population gap", but creates a dreadful social-economic crisis.

Migration will make European countries unrecognizable. Just visit Frankfurt, Paris, Vienna, Barcelona and they're nothing
like they were 25 years ago.

Why doesn't anyone think about automation?
It works in IT, the car industry and Japan is the best examples. It helps reduce the workforce required and potentially even
increase productivity. But somehow AI is not used to increase.

Instead of struggling to keep up with production and consumption (World-wide craze, it's what almost all economies are
built around), we should reduce production, but increase the costs per unit. Exactly the other-way around.

Instead of producing cheaper flat TV's, which are only good for 2 years, the manufacturers should strive to make more durable
products that LAST for LONGER: e.g. 20 years.

Instead of 1,000 USD, a lating laptop could cost 5,000 USD, but could function for a lot longer.
What's going on in the IT World is pure marketing, baiting.
It's like commercial music or...

iPhone!

Sounds familiar? Useless products that keep you drooling after them.

I'm sick of changing laptops every 3-4 years, cellphones every 2 years, powerbanks every 2 years, printers every 1-2 years, TV's every 5 years...
It's not just the money, but the time wasted to buy the new one, finding a good way to get rid
of the old one (at a minimal loss) and learn how to use the new one.

The wild consumption-driven global economy should swap the economic model before it's too late.

China is the "engine" and it's breaking down... We're the passengers and I'm afraid we won't be able to fix the engine it if breaks down.
 
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