Lovey80 said:Just finished the South Carolina Myrtle Beach debate. There is one place where Paul trips himself up. In wanting to always voice his opinion with relation to his principles, can be his own worst enemy. Sure he may be right when he talks about the Bin Laden hit in Pakistan with relation to sovereignty,and international law and how Obama handled it.
The problem is the majority of the American voting public don't give a shit about the sovereignty of Pakistan because they believe that Pakistan was hiding him in one way or another. So it would have been in Paul's best interest to shut up about it. But now that he has said it, it is a perfect talking point in debates, that regardless of the fact that he is right, does not give him any leverage and tends to give the "isolationist" spruikers more leverage against him.
I have to give him credit though, he never backs out of something that he has said which makes him so genuine. I am just worried that in cases like this, it may turn some to the hypocrits and flipfloppers.
This does not bode well... for the american people, almost like a setup.pmbug said:He has never been known as being wont to pander for political points.
However, the SC debate audience was particularly loathesome in their bloodlust and vapidity. I think a lot of people watching on TV were listening to Rod Serling's Twilight Zone music in their heads as they pondered the audience booing The Golden Rule.
www.goldonlinestore.com said:Hopefully Ron Paul can switch to being a independent he would do well and win
www.goldonlinestore.com said:Hello, mmm....shiney! and all, go Ron Paul 2012
When asked in front of a national audience this week to defend his ability to win the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, Ron Paul responded by emphasizing the real contest: the race for delegates.
"The delegates [are] what counts," Paul said at the NBC presidential debate in Tampa, Fla., after noting that the Iowa caucuses (in which Paul placed third) did not award a single delegate to a candidate. The caucuses are just the starting point for a long delegate awarding process in that state.
Paul didn't win any of the first three nominating contests, and he plans to largely ignore Florida's winner-take-all primary on Tuesday in favor of focusing on states that hold caucuses, like Nevada, Maine and Minnesota. By picking up delegates in nearly every state, Paul and his supporters could potentially wreak havoc at the Republican nominating convention this August.
"We're going to be in until it's mathematically impossible for us to win," Gary Howard, a spokesman for Paul, told Yahoo News in the spin room after a debate last week in Charleston, S.C. "It's going to be a long time."
The magic number necessary for a candidate to win the nomination is 1,144 delegates--a majority of the 2,286 delegates who will be voting at the convention, which will be held from Aug. 27 to Aug. 30 in Tampa, Fla.
Paul's team says they're running to win, not to influence the platform or the selection of the party's vice presidential nominee at the convention.
"Absolutely," we will be at the convention, campaign manager Jesse Benton told Yahoo News. "We have a comprehensive plan to win 1,144 delegates. We're going to scrap all the way."
Benton listed Minnesota, Maine, Nevada, Louisiana, North Dakota, Kansas, Missouri, Colorado and Washington as states where Paul could place first or second, when pressed during an interview last week.
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col0016 said:I know it's unhealthy, look at all those Obamites for the last election, but I have so much vested in Ron Paul. I seriously idolize him :s
Obama was so plainly obviously a corporate/financial whore before during and after his election campaign... look at his campaign backers FFS. Putting Obama and Paul in the same universe is almost an insult, let alone in the same boxluckylukeonline said:col0016 said:I know it's unhealthy, look at all those Obamites for the last election, but I have so much vested in Ron Paul. I seriously idolize him :s
Sorry, but I find it a little sad for so many Australians to be facinated by a US politician. Yes, I too know of Ron Paul and have watched him with interest for the past 2 elections. But Obama should has snapped everyone back to the world of reality. All those in Australia (and the rest of the world) who watched the last election like some Hollywood blockbuster, waved and cheered when Obama (the new snakeoil salesman for brand America) won, and though that he was going to change the world for the better by undoing Bush Era foreign policy decisions........... I bet you've all got headaches now!
Ron Paul is interesting. But "idolise"? "....much vested in Ron Paul"? Are you Australian or American? Do you really think he has a snowballs chance in Hell of getting elected? Do you think if he did, he would be allowed to change anything substantially?
LOL Sorry col0016, but I think your dreaming....................