Pensioners or centerlink recipients

I have a really cruel solution :D
Cut all gov payments & fend for your self's .
Work it out
Or stop breathing

About as subtle as a sledge hammer to crack an egg :P
 
with utility prices in a bubble and bank interest rates as low as they are i would say most people need more money than they are presently getting, be they waged or on centrelink benefits (age pension, dsp, newstart, students, single mums etc)

taxpayers should never whine, because the money given to people in need gets spent in the economy

i would say there are very few people these days who simply treat their benefits as a handout, for nothing, of course, if they do that is their free choice, bust most, you would find, would be delighted not to be in such a situation if that were the case, and those who dont think that way just havent woken up yet and realised that, to get anywhere in life, you have to put in some effort
 
john12 said:
with utility prices in a bubble and bank interest rates as low as they are i would say most people need more money than they are presently getting, be they waged or on centrelink benefits (age pension, dsp, newstart, students, single mums etc)

taxpayers should never whine, because the money given to people in need gets spent in the economy

i would say there are very few people these days who simply treat their benefits as a handout, for nothing, of course, if they do that is their free choice, bust most, you would find, would be delighted not to be in such a situation if that were the case, and those who dont think that way just havent woken up yet and realised that, to get anywhere in life, you have to put in some effort
WeLcome & nice first post........
 
wrcmad said:
john12 said:
taxpayers should never whine, because the money given to people in need gets spent in the economy

Your kidding, aren't you?

Go to a local centrelink office & see how many junkies are there ,go to the Prahran office where all the St.kilda low life's end up going :rolleyes:
What do they put in to the economy ?
Drugs & hookers :rolleyes:
 
wrcmad said:
john12 said:
taxpayers should never whine, because the money given to people in need gets spent in the economy

Your kidding, aren't you?


That's right lol
It's kind of a stimulus that rakes in gst while feeding the economy.
And it cuts down crime.
 
hiho said:
thats a wide range to choose from, so many ways to become a pensioner
I was hoping to encourage a wider range of discussion. If it was just aged pension, that would probably narrow it down quite a bit. Now, if we "throw in single teen age mothers", we have a lot more scope.
 
spannermonkey said:
Go to a local centrelink office & see how many junkies are there ,go to the Prahran office where all the St.kilda low life's end up going :rolleyes:

Where do you go to see the leeches from Toorak claiming their negative gearing deductions and family trust distributions?
 
spannermonkey said:
I have a really cruel solution :D
Cut all gov payments & fend for your self's .
Work it out
Or stop breathing

About as subtle as a sledge hammer to crack an egg :P

Has someone hacked your account spanner? ;) Anyway, that's clearly the best endgame (sometimes uou have to be cruel to be kind) the question is the transition.
 
john12 said:
with utility prices in a bubble and bank interest rates as low as they are i would say most people need more money than they are presently getting, be they waged or on centrelink benefits (age pension, dsp, newstart, students, single mums etc)

taxpayers should never whine, because the money given to people in need gets spent in the economy

i would say there are very few people these days who simply treat their benefits as a handout, for nothing, of course, if they do that is their free choice, bust most, you would find, would be delighted not to be in such a situation if that were the case, and those who dont think that way just havent woken up yet and realised that, to get anywhere in life, you have to put in some effort

Maybe everyone should be on benefits then... as the money would get spent in the economy.

It's one thing to justify welfare payments on a basis of caring for the needy, its another altogether to claim that it is an economic achievement. A bridge too far indeed.
 
Big A.D. said:
spannermonkey said:
Go to a local centrelink office & see how many junkies are there ,go to the Prahran office where all the St.kilda low life's end up going :rolleyes:

Where do you go to see the leeches from Toorak claiming their negative gearing deductions and family trust distributions?

Hang on, 5 mins ago I thought you were in support of a system that works?
 
Big A.D. said:
spannermonkey said:
Go to a local centrelink office & see how many junkies are there ,go to the Prahran office where all the St.kilda low life's end up going :rolleyes:

Where do you go to see the leeches from Toorak claiming their negative gearing deductions and family trust distributions?

Same office "Prahran " ;)
Heavily out numbered by the junkies & pill poppers
 
bordsilver said:
spannermonkey said:
I have a really cruel solution :D
Cut all gov payments & fend for your self's .
Work it out
Or stop breathing

About as subtle as a sledge hammer to crack an egg :P

Has someone hacked your account spanner? ;) Anyway, that's clearly the best endgame (sometimes uou have to be cruel to be kind) the question is the transition.
NAH not hacked ;)
IT'S me
I am an ANARCHIST after all .
I don't believe ANY system works ;)
If it ends in "ISM" it don't work
Except for TISM & I used to do they're gigs in Melbourne :D
 
spannermonkey said:
bordsilver said:
spannermonkey said:
I have a really cruel solution :D
Cut all gov payments & fend for your self's .
Work it out
Or stop breathing

About as subtle as a sledge hammer to crack an egg :P

Has someone hacked your account spanner? ;) Anyway, that's clearly the best endgame (sometimes uou have to be cruel to be kind) the question is the transition.
NAH not hacked ;)
IT'S me
I am an ANARCHIST after all .
I don't believe ANY system works ;)
If it ends in "ISM" it don't work
Except for TISM & I used to do they're gigs in Melbourne :D

I'm still a newbie and didn't recall seeing this side of you over the past few months. Awesome!
 
bordsilver said:
spannermonkey said:
bordsilver said:
Has someone hacked your account spanner? ;) Anyway, that's clearly the best endgame (sometimes uou have to be cruel to be kind) the question is the transition.
NAH not hacked ;)
IT'S me
I am an ANARCHIST after all .
I don't believe ANY system works ;)
If it ends in "ISM" it don't work
Except for TISM & I used to do they're gigs in Melbourne :D

I'm still a newbie and didn't recall seeing this side of you over the past few months. Awesome!

I've promised to behave ,I've promised I want pay out on people
If they deserve it or not
Mostly they did . :D
 
wrcmad said:
Big A.D. said:
spannermonkey said:
Go to a local centrelink office & see how many junkies are there ,go to the Prahran office where all the St.kilda low life's end up going :rolleyes:

Where do you go to see the leeches from Toorak claiming their negative gearing deductions and family trust distributions?

Hang on, 5 mins ago I thought you were in support of a system that works?

:P I am, but just pointing out how easy it is to pay out on "bludgers" at the bottom of society when there are just as many at the top.

For what its worth, I do think social welfare is one of the greatest economic achievements and my family arrived in this country in chains as a result of the one they came from not having a welfare system but if we're going to have it, we have to make sure it is sustainable.
 
spannermonkey said:
bordsilver said:
spannermonkey said:
I have a really cruel solution :D
Cut all gov payments & fend for your self's .
Work it out
Or stop breathing

About as subtle as a sledge hammer to crack an egg :P

Has someone hacked your account spanner? ;) Anyway, that's clearly the best endgame (sometimes uou have to be cruel to be kind) the question is the transition.
NAH not hacked ;)
IT'S me
I am an ANARCHIST after all .
I don't believe ANY system works ;)
If it ends in "ISM" it don't work
Except for TISM & I used to do they're gigs in Melbourne :D
An anarchist liking tism? Gee, who woulda thunk it?
 
The dole should be raised.. People who cannot work definitly need a centerlink raise. I.e older people, disability and single mums etc.

Young, lazy, the-world-owes-me-a-living type people should get no free money. If they think it's smart not to earn their living they should try living in the dirt like many people have to.
 
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