barsenault
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bigcountry said:
That's some inexpensive metal there. Do they sell to the U.S. Market? There is quite a price difference from them and the dealers here in the U.S. I wonder why?
Lunar Death?
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That's some inexpensive metal there. Do they sell to the U.S. Market? There is quite a price difference from them and the dealers here in the U.S. I wonder why?
I have no idea, I'm just a small retail customer, and they happen to be pretty convenient for me, and in this case at least, they happen to be really good value. You could always email them and ask I guess.
barsenault
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barsenault said:
Those dudes over at Ainslie are real 'winners.' Hope you Assuies aren't as rude as those folks. I wouldn't do business with them if you paid me. Seem like a shady business...no, not because they wouldn't sell to a Yankee, but because they were unprofessional.
barsenault
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Credit Crunch said:
Not surprised in the least that he put you in that kind of a bind. I could tell straight up when I got my email response from this person that this isn't the kind of company I want to deal with. I'll pay a little more for peace of mind. karma sucks. With that kind of attitude they'll be out of business in a flash...and couldn't happen to a nicer group of folks. I hope Ainslie is a member here...because they have some attitude adjustments to make. Or perhaps that just the Aussie way. hehehehe.
Ainslie
spot needs to move to restore order and confidence
Here's some info that shows that "The world" loves Lunars.
Series 2 Silver
2008 1oz Silver Mouse - 300,000 Mintage Sold-out
2009 1oz Silver Ox - 300,000 Mintage Sold-out
2010 1oz Silver Tiger - 300,000 Mintage Sold-out
2011 1oz Silver Rabbit - 300,000 Mintage Sold-out
2012 1oz Silver Dragon - 300,000 Mintage Sold-out
2013 1oz Silver Snake - 300,000 Mintage Sold-out
2014 1oz Silver Horse - 300,000 Mintage Sold-out
Declared Mintage details
http://www.perthmint.com.au//docume...nar_Silver_Bullion_Series_Two_2008_-_2013.pdf
Series 2 Gold
2008 1oz Gold Mouse - 30,000 Mintage Sold-out
2009 1oz Gold Ox - 30,000 Mintage Sold-out
2010 1oz Gold Tiger - 30,000 Mintage Sold-out
2011 1oz Gold Rabbit - 30,000 Mintage Sold-out
2012 1oz Gold Dragon - 30,000 Mintage Sold-out
2013 1oz Gold Snake - 30,000 Mintage Sold-out
2014 1oz Gold Horse - 30,000 Mintage Sold-out
Declared Mintage Details
http://www.perthmint.com.au//documents/The_Australian_Lunar_Gold_Bullion_Series_Two_2008_-_2013.pdf
ebay sales (Sold) at a glance
1oz Lunar Mouse
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...RENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=7&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1
1oz Lunar Ox
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...RENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=7&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1
1oz Lunar Tiger
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...RENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=7&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1
1oz Lunar Rabbit
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...RENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=7&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1
1oz Lunar Dragon
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...RENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=7&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1
1oz Lunar Snake
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...RENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=7&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1
1oz Lunar Horse
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...RENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=7&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1
Series 2 Silver
2008 1oz Silver Mouse - 300,000 Mintage Sold-out
2009 1oz Silver Ox - 300,000 Mintage Sold-out
2010 1oz Silver Tiger - 300,000 Mintage Sold-out
2011 1oz Silver Rabbit - 300,000 Mintage Sold-out
2012 1oz Silver Dragon - 300,000 Mintage Sold-out
2013 1oz Silver Snake - 300,000 Mintage Sold-out
2014 1oz Silver Horse - 300,000 Mintage Sold-out
Declared Mintage details
http://www.perthmint.com.au//docume...nar_Silver_Bullion_Series_Two_2008_-_2013.pdf
Series 2 Gold
2008 1oz Gold Mouse - 30,000 Mintage Sold-out
2009 1oz Gold Ox - 30,000 Mintage Sold-out
2010 1oz Gold Tiger - 30,000 Mintage Sold-out
2011 1oz Gold Rabbit - 30,000 Mintage Sold-out
2012 1oz Gold Dragon - 30,000 Mintage Sold-out
2013 1oz Gold Snake - 30,000 Mintage Sold-out
2014 1oz Gold Horse - 30,000 Mintage Sold-out
Declared Mintage Details
http://www.perthmint.com.au//documents/The_Australian_Lunar_Gold_Bullion_Series_Two_2008_-_2013.pdf
ebay sales (Sold) at a glance
1oz Lunar Mouse
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...RENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=7&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1
1oz Lunar Ox
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...RENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=7&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1
1oz Lunar Tiger
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...RENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=7&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1
1oz Lunar Rabbit
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...RENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=7&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1
1oz Lunar Dragon
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...RENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=7&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1
1oz Lunar Snake
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...RENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=7&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1
1oz Lunar Horse
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...RENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=7&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1
barsenault
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Holdfast said:
Amen to that! I love the lunar. I just bought 2 1oz 2013 gold pandas, probably should have spent a little extra and bought the Perth horse. Oh well. I think the 2013 is going to be a hit too...first with 3 pandas.
1for1
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Putting your faith in Spot Silver hoping that will ignite deamdn for lunars is onehope to far for me.. i think perth mint shat where it ate firstly with jacking up proof prices.. then producing 64 dragon variants.. now they cant pay people to buy the overpriced jank.. as a result their actual "good products" have suffered the backlash by association..
Stackers have elephant memories and compeition for bullion has increased.. too many other places to put your investment dollar.. also the lunar mark-ups are more than a rational deligent stacker would pay.. i hop i am now one of those not hoodwinked by a pretty picture and more quantity-centric
1for1
Stackers have elephant memories and compeition for bullion has increased.. too many other places to put your investment dollar.. also the lunar mark-ups are more than a rational deligent stacker would pay.. i hop i am now one of those not hoodwinked by a pretty picture and more quantity-centric
1for1
worldbubble
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expectation that coin with 300k mintage will rise in value while spot is going down is false
damn even pandas dropped in price ... pre 2009 slabbed ones with ms69 can be get cheaper than raw couple of years ago.
damn even pandas dropped in price ... pre 2009 slabbed ones with ms69 can be get cheaper than raw couple of years ago.
I have some questions... foremost, no offense to anyone:
A complete series is 12 pieces, annual release. Once the entire series is done (Chinese Lunar from Rat to Pig), there will be a Series 3, Series 4. New series is not a continuity of its previous series.
When a lunar series is completed, stackers will go for the next Series. Most new stackers I know actually prefer to get into new series because they are more affordable and they are pretty much the "same" in terms of motives (Lunar Rat to Pig). Completed series will be a full series, new stackers will likely have to buy the whole collection from other stackers if they really like the design.
The Lunar series differs from ongoing series like Kooks/Koala/Chinese Pandas as the later are ongoing series without a definite "end date". It could stretch more than 12 years (like the Kooks and Pandas) and higher chance that new stackers will try to complete the set, which result in constant demand for past year releases.
Questions:
1. I have seen Perth Mint Lunar Series 1 (bullion and glided) being put up for sale but not many takers. Does market demand dies down significantly on completed Lunar series?
2. Give it another 6-12 years and Perth Mint will likely be running its Lunar Series 3 or 4. What happens to Series 1 and 2? Will they still be in hot demand?
Friends of mine usually buy gold and silver Lunars of specific years, mainly matching their kids' year of birth. Not many of them will try to complete the entire series. This is just my observation and may not apply to general public. I would like to hear your opinions...
A complete series is 12 pieces, annual release. Once the entire series is done (Chinese Lunar from Rat to Pig), there will be a Series 3, Series 4. New series is not a continuity of its previous series.
When a lunar series is completed, stackers will go for the next Series. Most new stackers I know actually prefer to get into new series because they are more affordable and they are pretty much the "same" in terms of motives (Lunar Rat to Pig). Completed series will be a full series, new stackers will likely have to buy the whole collection from other stackers if they really like the design.
The Lunar series differs from ongoing series like Kooks/Koala/Chinese Pandas as the later are ongoing series without a definite "end date". It could stretch more than 12 years (like the Kooks and Pandas) and higher chance that new stackers will try to complete the set, which result in constant demand for past year releases.
Questions:
1. I have seen Perth Mint Lunar Series 1 (bullion and glided) being put up for sale but not many takers. Does market demand dies down significantly on completed Lunar series?
2. Give it another 6-12 years and Perth Mint will likely be running its Lunar Series 3 or 4. What happens to Series 1 and 2? Will they still be in hot demand?
Friends of mine usually buy gold and silver Lunars of specific years, mainly matching their kids' year of birth. Not many of them will try to complete the entire series. This is just my observation and may not apply to general public. I would like to hear your opinions...
worldbubble
Active Member
yrh0413 said:
1. market demand is not dying ... one should go back to 2009, mark the price of lunar and draw the line ... price spike of the series was at the same time silver spot made its highs.
Series 1 is already developed market and they will not rise that fast as Series 2, but, BUT, those who collect lunars buy them (I know because I buy as well as sell these)
2. Series 1 and 2 will be in high demand. Currently Investment wise series 2 offers better return in long run (coz it's cheaper than series 1) ... collection wise series 1 is more valuable. More people have stack of series 2 coins than just one of each of series 1. That's how prospective demand side looks
All new stackers start with current year, fascinated by the series and start looking backwards. Because it is boring to stay just with current year.))
P.S. There're 1/12 of population for each animal year ... so there's demand
