systematic
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I wonder if Mr Leyonjelm also thinks a war pension is a charity ... because it is certainly not a consolation prize ...
Leyonhjelm - Pensions are charity
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systematic
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The Rothschilds would probably say yes .....
systematic
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Big A.D. said:
In a world of QE .... Ben Bernanke would be chuckling at that comment ....
If theres no money by that time i wont be recieving anything ...so be it . It wont bother me either way All i am saying is if i fall in the criteria to recieve it & its available ...Im in .You have your ideals i have mine no amount of trying to shame me will change my mind I belong to the 'renovator self interest group" where 'one good turn deserves another " :lol:Big A.D. said:
Good for Nancy if you ask me, the family home should not come into the equation and Leyonhjelm can still eat my hairy beanbag
refer to BBs "extreme scenario"
Stoic Phoenix said:
It's not an "extreme scenario". Plenty of people are behaving like that now, some of them even say that is what they doing on this forum.
The "family home" is sacred (even if you don't have a family), but it's also a personal choice to buy one and where you buy it. As it stands now, a popular ""retirement strategy" is for people to buy high value houses just before they retire, use their lump sum super to pay out the mortgage and then go on the pension.
If you seriously can't look after yourself in your old age, fine, I'm happy to contribute. If you deliberately decided to blow your nest egg, either on partying or so you can beef up your kids' inheritance, I'm not so inclined to help.
Big A.D. said:
Please provide stats to collaborate with the above.
Bullion Baron said:Please provide stats to corroborate that it's an "extreme scenario" as you stated
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Thats simply BB - look at average house prices across the country - it sure as chit aint $4.5m
Bullion Baron said:
So the home has gone up $500,000 in the last year..Why not join the hi rollers from London, go to the bank ask for a loan against the increased value of the home ...Do that every year AND LIVE LIKE A KING.. Take it from the bankers and not the government.
This is what is happening in London ATM but over there it is a young mans game.
Regards Errol 43
Interesting how people here attack pensioners because of the actions of the government and the extreme greed of the general populace in inflating house prices far beyond any reasonable value.
If they've lived on their homes for decades (and these are people who saw their friends and relatives slaughtered to protect Australia) and the gov. then decides to turn a blind eye to the flood of speculative and foreign cash that inflates real estate prices, then suddenly its those greedy pensioners who are to blame. Its pretty much a "blame the victim" mentality.
Next, as Miloman has noted, you'll all be calling for these old people to be not only kicked out of there homes, but also to be euthanised because they are a drain on the entitlements of the middle class. This mentality permeates such petty arguments.
If they've lived on their homes for decades (and these are people who saw their friends and relatives slaughtered to protect Australia) and the gov. then decides to turn a blind eye to the flood of speculative and foreign cash that inflates real estate prices, then suddenly its those greedy pensioners who are to blame. Its pretty much a "blame the victim" mentality.
Next, as Miloman has noted, you'll all be calling for these old people to be not only kicked out of there homes, but also to be euthanised because they are a drain on the entitlements of the middle class. This mentality permeates such petty arguments.
What's up with this entitlement mentality? Why cant you just let these old people be?Bullion Baron said:
I get it that you feel piqued that some of them may be getting something they are not entitled to, and the bitterness is apparent like shit on white jocks, but it is not their fault that the housing market has been turned into a global investment vehicle through the abhorrent greed of the Australian middle class.
If they are working within the laws good for them, whats wrong with a person doing that?
Corporations pay as little tax as possible and claim funding where possible.
Im sure most people claim every cent they can come tax time.
I fail to see the difference nor the issue here.
Corporations pay as little tax as possible and claim funding where possible.
Im sure most people claim every cent they can come tax time.
I fail to see the difference nor the issue here.
Stoic Phoenix said:
Its hypocrisy, plain and simple. Its ok for corporations, but as soon as pensioners work within the laws to maximise their wellbeing then suddenly they are evil old scum. This is what happens when the ubiquitous entitlement mentality of middle class Australians is combined with petty greed and a total lack of compassion.