Ronnie 666 said:
You raised the issue of libertarian society ?
I think you may have missed newtosilver's shit stirring post.
http://forums.silverstackers.com/message-721607.html#p721607 in relation to Libertarianism.
Ronnie 666 said:
You buy a fake pair of sunglasses or a cd or a bag to use. You don't buy for the explicit reason to steal money from you fellow serf. I agree the corporations take a loss from fake goods but the public don't. These coins are counterfeit money as are the gold bars. If you have no problem with this then you would have no problem with counterfeit cash. I agree the central banks are the greatest counterfeit operation in the world and I oppose their money printing schemes. Counterfeit money will destroy the society. Sunglasses bags and CDs will not. Different level of fraud. Obviously this is a small operation and is no threat to society compared to many others but it can be easily eliminated and we choose to do nothing!
Fairly illogical post that.
"You don't buy for the explicit reason to steal money from you fellow serf"? I am assuming you mean selling not buying, are the seller's of these fakes stealing money? It's obvious that the items you guys are linking to are clearly not genuine,
FFS the bars are 50mm long.
"These coins are counterfeit money as are the gold bars", if you believe the intention of the seller is to commit fraud then they are counterfeit
in your opinion I suppose, but they're not counterfeit money by a long shot, they are a just fakes. They are not produced to deceive or fraud (unlike fake Pandas and countless other coins especially in the Asian market that are produced so well, they trick even experts), unless of course you buy them and leave them around the house with the express intention of trying to trick your friends. As a side note, even in the world of coin collecting, some forgeries hold value, far in excess of the metallic content of the coins, especially if they are notorious forgeries.
"If you have no problem with this then you would have no problem with counterfeit cash." No, I have a problem with counterfeit cash, I do not have a problem with gold bars or coins that clearly are not genuine.
And as bordsilver pointed out, there is a marked difference between "fake" and "fraud".
Find a more deserving cause to devote your energy to, or at least realise that you shouldn't champion (insert dictate) to others what they should or should not be able to buy.
SilverPete said:
Melamine milk and infant formulas would be cheaper to. What could go wrong?
And I bet you could get some pretty good "replica" cash if we're going to allow fakes.
One day you might even be able to sell fake politicians -- shiny on the outside but when the thin patina of pre-election respectability quickly wears off you are stuck with a toxic turd.
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Newtosilver said:
Yeah fakes should be readily available and people should be able to buy what they want.
Counterfeit Prescription Drugs made in back alleys do not seem dodgy at all to me....... I know if I could buy counterfeit heart medication for my elderly mother for half the price of a real medication I would give her the counterfeit medication. What could possibly go wrong with that?
Best post from the "Ban the Fakes Campaign Group".
Exactly, fakes should be readily available
and people should be able to buy what they want.
Fake medicines or copies should be available - if someone is dying and the prescribed approved medicine is unavailable or hideously expensive, then they should have access to cheaper generic or black market medicines. Being fully aware of the risks mind you. What have you got to lose?
