Asylum said:
Silverlicious said:
I tend to agree on all of the above. Though when you look at how Iceland booted out their government, arrested three banking heads, cleared amuch of the people's debt via a referendum, which mind you was collaboratively constructed in full transparency online for the world to see, then it shows what people power is capable of. I really don't think we'll lose our gold and silver as we are small fry's compared with the big boys, but putting that aside, it's interesting how we all constantly measure the value of PM's against the fiat, yet we all seem to agree that fiat is debt, and holds no intrinsic value. To me, this kind of sounds contradictory to some extent. Does that then mean gold and silver really hold no value? If that's the case, then do we really need to hold it or should it just be shared amongst all to be used to better our lives in production of items that we will all benefit from. I'm just throwing it out there. Personally, I love the shiny stuff. Why? I don't know, I just do. Maybe if tomorrow it's value went to zero based on fiat value, then maybe I wouldn't love it as much. In fact I'm sure no one here would. So even if you had to give it up and in return be given something that was worth multiple times it's perceived value today, then I don't think anyone would raise an eyebrow.
Why should it be distributed to all equally?
Did you mine it? Did you refine it? Pour it? Earn it?
And if it was distributed to the world equally (which would never happen in the foreseeable future) then the value drops to zero.
An already apathetic world would become more-so.
I am all for the government getting out of my way but the system works, it is just corrupt. Technically both the idea of a government and the notion of no government relies on the inherent good of humanity.
Just my rambling
I think they are talking about the gold and silver that has already been acquired as a result of the 'powers that were' running a slave based global society. They elected themselves as rulers, they gave themselves the power to invent money backed by nothing, yet charge interest to us all on every dollar ever dumped into the system. They used the interest to buy up all the worlds resources. They dump trillions upon trillions into the system (all of it accompanied by compounding interest) secured unknowing by tax payers around the world, and give the money to their international banking subsidiaries who then buy more gold and silver for themselves. This is the wealth we are talking about here. Miners will always get their due pay for getting the stuff out of the ground.
I cannot agree on your comment that the system works. Are you serious? We are born, we are registered as human capital, given a registration number, we get older, we're put to work for a minimum of 40 hours a week so that we can fit into society, and then we have to forfeit up to almost half our salary in tax and not to mention pay every other tax, like GST, Capital Gains, and the list goes on and on. And that's in the lucky country. Go to other third world countries and you'll find most have to work 10-12 hour days, 6 - 7 days a week to just survive. Don't just look in your own backyard. We're talking about a global system here. The global system does not work, it is not designed in your favour, it is designed to mute you, dumb you down, and control every aspect of your life. Soon they will tell you that you can no longer buy 7 pieces of steak a week and that you'll only be able to buy 2, then 1, then 1 per fortnight, they will tell you what you have to feed your kids, and gold and silver ownership in the hands of the people will be a distant memory. The system works alright, just not in your favour.
And I'm sure we could all live without gold jewelry too. Silly people.
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