Silverlicious said:
Maybe you should look up what communism is, just saying
Power to the sheeple! :lol:
Buying gold and silver is now illegal
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Maybe you should look up what communism is, just saying
Power to the sheeple! :lol:
Silverlicious
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valuecreator said:Silverlicious said:
Maybe you should look up what communism is, just saying
Power to the sheeple! :lol:
What's the point if I can just rely on other people's quotes. At least then i'll appear to know what I'm talking about :/
Silverlicious
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volrathy said:
Yeah apparently junk silver is excluded. Sorry couldn't help myself.
SilverSanchez
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Global Socialism - dont laugh!
But be very afraid coz this is a logical conclusion of socialism
'Hoarders' are the new evil
But be very afraid coz this is a logical conclusion of socialism
'Hoarders' are the new evil
soupdragon
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...and this has relevance to me in Australia because???
Silverlicious
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SilverSanchez said:
Yeah maybe, but seems to me that democracy, communism, socialism, fascism and every other ism doesn't work.. what's next? What do you mean by hoarders? If you're referring to hoarders of wealth then wouldn't that be "old evil or current evil"?
Ahhh, you referring to the silver hoarders? Yeah well then look out, we are a force, not sure about evil though
Fat Freddy
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Prada is past -- Gucci is gone -- Oscar DeLaRenta is dead -- Calvin Klein is in the crapper -- Versaci is very much over with... Etc, etc, etc ad infinitum.
The new fashion rage is now aluminum foil hats! Be the first kid on your block! Get yours today! Don't be left behind!
The new fashion rage is now aluminum foil hats! Be the first kid on your block! Get yours today! Don't be left behind!
Umm, the whole premise is based on:
Okay. So I'm supposed to obey what my mum and dad tell me and no-one else has the ability to say otherwise, while you're supposed to obey what your mum and dad tell you.
+1 to VC
Okay. So I'm supposed to obey what my mum and dad tell me and no-one else has the ability to say otherwise, while you're supposed to obey what your mum and dad tell you.
+1 to VC
Loving these Frank Zappa quotes.valuecreator said:
Silverlicious
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bordsilver said:Umm, the whole premise is based on:
Okay. So I'm supposed to obey what my mum and dad tell me and no-one else has the ability to say otherwise, while you're supposed to obey what your mum and dad tell you.
+1 to VC
That's your choice. Probably a good idea if you don't want to end up in the naughty corner. :lol:
Silverlicious
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Fat Freddy said:
Seems you have already been left behind.
SilverSanchez
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Silverlicious said:SilverSanchez said:
Yeah maybe, but seems to me that democracy, communism, socialism, fascism and every other ism doesn't work.. what's next? What do you mean by hoarders? If you're referring to hoarders of wealth then wouldn't that be "old evil or current evil"?
Ahhh, you referring to the silver hoarders? Yeah well then look out, we are a force, not sure about evil though
The defnition of hoarders in communism is anyone who saves anything beyond what they need above a subsistence existence - silver, food.. anything
Silverlicious said:
I like to take in information, do some research myself and then develop my own opinion
Mate I get where you are coming from, I was angry once like you about these things (talking 15 years ago here) but there are two sides to everything. The government aren't going carte blanche on everything, the information is there if you look for it.
As for where the money is going, Perth is out of control at the moment for developments so it is going somewhere, not necessarily to the right places but it gets spent and yes we should get a say on more things but lunches? I don't have time to be common sense for someone else.
You have to understand that this has been going on for hundreds, thousands of years in some form or another. After a while the 'system' gets a life of its own, becomes an organism if you will.
And touching on this Creator stuff, I'm sorry but the only creator of my life is me. It's my responsibility to make it what I want it to be and yes when the government gets in my way I will raise hell about it, within reason.
Back on topic though, I believe I could purchase some silver today if I so wished. I need to do further research before I can validate any points raised in the articles and video.
This place gets more interesting everyday
Silverlicious
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SilverSanchez said:Silverlicious said:SilverSanchez said:
Yeah maybe, but seems to me that democracy, communism, socialism, fascism and every other ism doesn't work.. what's next? What do you mean by hoarders? If you're referring to hoarders of wealth then wouldn't that be "old evil or current evil"?
Ahhh, you referring to the silver hoarders? Yeah well then look out, we are a force, not sure about evil though
The defnition of hoarders in communism is anyone who saves anything beyond what they need above a subsistence existence - silver, food.. anything
I think people by nature like to hoard stuff. So going back to your original post, all us stackers are the new evil?
Silverlicious said:
That's and other reasons like that each person has his own individual set of preferences/priorities in life, is why socialism and communism doesn't work.
Unfortunately Australia (and US) is going full steam ahead to full flown socialism/fascism. Please believe a guy who lived under original (Soviet) socialism.
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This post isn't about socialism or communism. But appreciate your thoughts. Maybe a blended approach is what is needed. I agree that Australia is headed down the path of fascism, but OPPT seems to address that. OPPT is what the original article refers to.
Silverlicious said:
After watching the full video I just wanted to wrap up my comments on this as I felt my previous, very general commentary was rather lacklustre.
I cannot condone the content despite it raising interest some interesting points. They keep banging on about Letters Patent by Queen Victoria at the start and how The current government, "Government" as they would say, in not fully declared as is stated in some documentation, in the Constitution and Letters Patent etc, but all this does is give Imperial power and make sure that it is held by the Queen in the form of the Governor General and Upper and Lower houses of parliament (elected and restricted with many limits) etc.
The courts, executive and legislative powers framework is quite complicated as a lot of our Political and Legal entities, and procedures, go as far back as Imperial Act of The Bill of Rights of 1689(!) and Common Law (case law), not to mention conventions and procedure which loosely drapes across the Legislature and has never really been codified legally.
It would seem like the makers of this video really do not understand how a Democratic-Parlimentary system (that is quintisentially Anglo) has or continues to operate.
Early in the video it, bizarrely in my opinion, holds up the Queen and Monarchy as something pure that, without really explaining how, becomes an impure American Corporation and a coup of shadow governance. If that really did happen, don't you think the people who were in power, who obviously would like to keep power, would have said something?
Considering the parlimentary system functioned much the same at the Federal level since 1901, and before that at the state level, with some variations and changes (changing to Responsible government etc). operated as a representative system as far back to the mid 1850's. Yet this political entitiy is registered in 1929, well after the states Federated, so a logical point of enquiry, which the makers did not do or comment on, would be to find out;
1) is it controlled by the Representative Gov of Australia?
2) what would the practical purpose of registration be? Legal issues for trade etc? and so on.
One glaring issue with the documentary is that it only shows one side of the debate - they never mentioned trying to approach any Law professors regarding Constitutional considerations, Historians etc - no emails, no attempted contacts - nothing. Just an echo chamber of rambling.
As for Customs behaviour, if I was working there, trying to do my job and someone email in invoicing me, making legal depositions and liens, for one thing it would probably best to ignore as the legal costs at having to have a Lawyer write a response (you couldn't have your intern do it as if they make too much of a generalisation or other such errors, their could be legal consequences), would be too high.
Them not responding isnt that big a deal. It sucks and I think that it would be best if they did respond with a reasonably thorough email/reponse but to give him what he wanted would cost them thousands of dollars to compile. Reasearch statutes and translate this across to your organisational function for this guy to understand? For anyone to understand it would take a lot of hours and work. I mean, as far as I was aware, a Lien signatory was those who controlled the asset (this would be Customs in this case) not the other way around?
Towards the end - the documentary tends to become totally unhinged, by his reasoning, he could probably send his document to any number of different organisations, with varying claims; 99% would ignore it too, so what, would this then mean they are all exactly what he has claimed? I mean it is really abusing the function of a Lien to begin with and, with a little logic, does not translate to reality. Also he and the creators, whether purposefully or through negligence, abuse specific legal action to pretend that his Lien has any explicit standing - which as far as I understand it, it does not.
It goes on like that, the 'who are the courts', The Courts or 'police The Police'?
Most functions that created this, and other Federal Organisations, occurs through a myriad of delegated legislation and other aspects of federal and state law, as well as Common Law... I mean - earlier he is quoting a High Court judge... only to then later say that the Courts are bogus, so then by that reasoning, should he not then disregard the commentary of the Judge? who is actually not a Judge?
Also, it is quite a contentious issue to say that silence means that your are expressing guilt. In fact, until it was legislated in statues, Common Law did allow you to remain and keep silent and not even to have to give a name to police (since changed). Though you can find much commentary in the guilt of silence, you can find much commentary on the opposing view, also; and not just within the American Legal system, which provides constituted protection.
No doubt we are taxed and have transactional penalisations but it is the small price we pay for civilisation.
And with that, I shall tip my hat and bid you good day sir