1ST COIN OF NEW SERIES ( "Lunar Skulls" )

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barsenault said:
they are nice, but not 300/400 nice. I could be wrong. Time will tell.
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I noticed that soon after the photos were posted in the auction, the price of both "ram-inc-ia" (now $342 USD) & SM's eBay listings shot up rather quickly.

What that truly means, who knows..
 
mmissinglink said:
I'd bet that individualized serial numbers on a coin's edge is quite an expensive process. Anyone here know just how much effort and additional labor would go into such a process?
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From what I've seen, seems to be relatively easy -- if you've got the right equipment.
 
Luker said:
I queried that question to son-montuno ~ 4weeks ago , and he replied that they were aiming for the coin number to be engraved on the rim on the right side, but that wasn't etched in silver.

Cheers,
Luker
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I've got a couple serialized rounds.

Basically there's a break in the reeded edge, where the # is stamped.
 
Gatito Bandito said:
Luker said:
I would imagine that we are seeing both BU and proof versions in this photo:
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I'm thinking that's a 2nd proof, which is angled differently & reflecting something else.

You'll see in the photo right after that, that there looks to be 2 proofs.
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You are correct, both are in fact proofs.
 
Like those new pictures, I think the coin turned out very nice. I certainly had my doupts after seeing that horrible snake coin but that went away after seeing the mould, looks just like it.
 
Luker said:
db23 said:
Seems that the milking has begun. not sure if this has been posted, but now I see FCC pre-selling 2oz and 10oz versions.
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I would be extremely surprised if this was the case. Through my correspondance with son-montuno he came across as being very astute and in tune with what coin enthusiasts are looking for, and is well aware as to how others have made mistakes and gotten greedy. Furthermore he was always the professional and very cordial.

Cheers,
Luker
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THE MOST POPULAR QUESTION AND OUR ANSWER IS...

"Will you be issuing different sizes and variations of the Ghana 2015 Lunar
Skulls Year of the Goat coin? Will we see 2oz, 5oz, gilded, antique
finish, colorized, gold or other versions in the future?

AND THE ANSWER IS....
NO - ABSOLUTELY NOT!

We understand how so many collectors feel jaded and cheated by national and private mints.
We fully understand that issuing more variants after the initial release is NOT how to treat your
good customers and is exactly the wrong way to build a quality reputation. We find it absolutely
insulting that "trusted" mints dilute past mintages by issuing variants and putting re-strikes
on the current market. We will also keep an archive of all past and present issues on the SMmint
website so people can check in there to see what was officially released and the mintage numbers.

In addition, we are also making sure that everyone that gets a coin in hand
will fully understand what was issued and what they are holding:
Each COA will have all variations of the coin listed with mintage numbers.This means that the PROOF and BU versions of this coin will share the same COA but each
certificate will be numbered to reflect the coin you own. This, combined with the numbering on
each coin, PROOF and BU, along with web posted archives will help make sure there is no
confusion about what we released and how many of them are out there.

For instance, if you see third party gilded or colorized versions of this coin,
you can be sure that those are NOT official SMmint products and are
nothing other than a fake or a purposely damaged coin with little collector value.
SMmint is dedicated to our customers and our products, this is our number 1 priority!

WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT
ALL OF OUR 2015 LUNAR SKULLS PROOF COIN CUSTOMERS WILL
AUTOMATICALLY HAVE A RESERVATION FOR THE 1ST ISSUE OF OUR
NEXT SERIES AND WILL ALSO RECEIVE A SPECIAL OFFER.
IT IS OUR WAY TO SAY...
"THANK YOU!"Please see my other listings for more great coins & treasures

WHEN YOU CLICK THIS LINK

Thanks and happy bidding!

PRESALECoins are expected to ship approximately in the middle
of January immediately after received & hot off the press

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/PROOF-2015-G...AT-1oz-Silver-High-Relief-Coin-/381094897519?
 
265.00 is a far cry from 500.00 or 750. LOL. And the coin isn't even out yet. :-) I say these drop below 200.00. :-) I coud be crazy...and we shall see. I can't wait to see the 2 I get for free. LOL.
 
barsenault said:
265.00 is a far cry from 500.00 or 750. LOL. And the coin isn't even out yet. :-) I say these drop below 200.00. :-) I coud be crazy...and we shall see. I can't wait to see the 2 I get for free. LOL.
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Poorly-timed auction, on SM's part.

Ended late Christmas Eve / early Christmas Day (US time).. Who does that??

Even Scottsdale had the sense to severely limit their # of listings during Christmas Eve/Day, cut by approximately 1/2 to 2/3rds from their typical historical rates.


The proof listing prior to that, which ended a few days before SM's, went for $342 USD -- which ended *after* the photos had already come out.

So which is the "true" price -- $265? $342? Take an average of the two?


I don't think anybody here claims this thing should be selling at $500 - $750.

My prediction made much earlier in this thread was it hitting $300+ ... and who knows what happens after that. That much has come true. I don't claim to know now where this is headed in the next month, 12 months, 12 years.. Way too many variables. Though I think odds are it will do just fine over the long term -- at least for the earlier buyers of both versions. The BU may also be a bit of a sleeper, especially once the 2K batch is sold out, and if these come out even better than expected, in terms of quality & appearance.
 
sriblo ag47 said:
From Smmint website - shipping time is approximately from January 1 to 10 2015.
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LUNAR SKULLS 2015 YEAR OF THE GOAT

ORIGINAL APPROXIMATION FOR SHIPPING WAS JANUARY 1-10, 2015
DELAYED PLEASE SCROLL DOWN FOR MORE INFORMATION

1/5/2015
the project manager just informed us of a slight delay of approximately 2-3 weeks
we are currently waiting for a confirmation of a new approximate shipping date
we will keep you updated this week as we find out more information

A NEW SERIES IS COMING VERY SOON

1/5/2015
the mint is trying to get some samples for us by this weekend
series will be announced and sales will begin shortly after samples are approved


http://smmint.com/
 
ALIEXPRESS COUNTERFEIT LUNAR SKULLS GOAT COIN

I spoke with Son-Montuno today and he asked me to relay a message to the Silverbug community and others. He is aware of the counterfeits being offered by Aliexpress and has looked into it. He is going to contact the seller and tell them to stop producing these yet as most are aware this may not happen. The Chinese are mass producing fakes of any and every popular coin and round. Son-Montuno is trying to get the real Lunar Skulls out the door as quickly as possible while maintaining a high level of quality and customer service. These are his priorities along with keeping his next project on track on top of his continued Ebay store site operation. He will respond to all emails as he has in the past but would appreciate if customers or potential buyers would check the SM Mint website for updates first. He will update the site with any new info immediately and will refer most questions there. He cannot send mass updates through Ebay's site he has inquired about this. He is in the process of setting up ways to do this and knows people want to keep informed but until then please refer to SM Mint. http://smmint.com/


As the site says tentative shipping date is end of January and he apologizes for the delay.

About the counterfeits, Son Montuno is willing to do all he can to keep these from being struck and sold. Now according to AliExpress they will ban this seller if they receive an Intellectual Property complaint from Son-Montuno. After he contacts the seller if they do not cease he will file this complaint. I know many are disappointed and upset they are being offered so if you can spare the time please visit this site and see if there is anything else Son-Montuno or collectors/stackers can do. At first I thought anyone could file a complaint but it turned out not to be the case. Yes, I'm sure they will pop up with a new profile but it's possible they will not offer these at least I don't know if it will help but at least he is willing and trying to do something. If anyone knows of anything else he can do let me know here or PM me and I will relay it to him-If feasible he will do it!

http://help.aliexpress.com/ipr_penalty.html

I am not Son-Montuno or an employee of his only a friend trying to help out and keep our community informed and possibly screw some douche bags selling fakes!
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Geesh.that is horrible. Wonder what these are selling for currently? The real ones. I sold 2 of mine for like 225.00 each. They must be up to 1000.00 by now.
 
barsenault said:
Geesh.that is horrible. Wonder what these are selling for currently? The real ones. I sold 2 of mine for like 225.00 each. They must be up to 1000.00 by now.
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On Aliexpress, $2.16 in lots of 100.
 
This gets more bizzare , if the counterfeits get in the market before the genuine ones, Geeze ,
Im sure the Government of Ghana is really upset about it Ha!:lol:
 
How good can a fake be if they don't have a real one in hand to make a mold from or scan to make a cast from??? The fake coming to market before the real one...this is rather bizarre.




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mmissinglink said:
How good can a fake be if they don't have a real one in hand to make a mold from or scan to make a cast from??? The fake coming to market before the real one...this is rather bizarre.




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That is very strange indeed. They can't possibly be any good they probably would have had to freehand it going off the sketch image they we were all given. Its amazing how quick they were to counterfit this one.
 
Nabullion Dynamite said:
mmissinglink said:
How good can a fake be if they don't have a real one in hand to make a mold from or scan to make a cast from??? The fake coming to market before the real one...this is rather bizarre..
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That is very strange indeed. They can't possibly be any good they probably would have had to freehand it going off the sketch image they we were all given. Its amazing how quick they were to counterfit this one.
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It looks like they have just used pictures published by Son-Montuno. They probably haven't produced any coins at all yet, or the actual ones look nothing like the stolen pictures.
 
SilverPete said:
It looks like they have just used pictures published by Son-Montuno. They probably haven't produced any coins at all yet, or the actual ones look nothing like the stolen pictures.
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Perhaps they are waiting to get an authentic coin in hand and are selling Preorder counterfits :P
 
Oh my. This is really getting out of hand! Just happy that I sold 2 of the 4 I purchased...#peaceofmind

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