S10Y 2003 Panda - Finally Has Attributes Assigned For Varieties

I'm not sure if this has been posted yet but I thought it was pretty cool as I haven't seen it until now.

We have all known that there are at least two varieties and possibly even four of the S10Y 2003 Panda but PCGS is finally labeling their holders with the attribute "frosted" or "satin"

The frosted are common as I have seen many and own several but the satin are rarely seen. I only own one. NGC has not started assigning attributes to the S10Y 2003 but I'm sure the will soon.

 

Here is a picture of the two varieties the "satin" is on the left, of course these two are NGC without attributes labeled (yet).

 

Hm time to take a look at my 2003s... hoard all the Satins!

 

You better send one satin to me! lol jk

 

Wow NGC is only about 2 years behind groovemac at LBC/CDC

 

I think I may have one of the satin finish Pandas.

 

Exactly as FB said, We should hunt all the satins! 11 out of 620 is no coincidence at all
Congrats catseye

 

Mines are the common variety I think

 

Based on a discussion I had not long ago with their chief grader, and others there, I think this will not be the last new variety to come from PCGS. If you have something that you believe may be a new variety let them know. They are definitely interested.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com

 

Acknowledging new varieties, I think that's good business move from PCGS,

All they need to do now is redesign/upgrade the quality of their slabs, NGC slabs looks 10 times better than PCGS's

 

Another good move is that PCGS should soon (like next month) have larger capsules to hold 5 oz., 12 oz. and kilo coins. From what I can see the fun is just beginning.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com

 

If PCGS puts out a better slab that protects & displays as well as NGC in conjunction with implementing a reasonable conservation service NGC can put a fork in it.
Either meet your customers needs or become irrelevant and fold.

 

+1

There is nothing wrong with the protective capabilities of the PCGS holder. They have $1million dollar coins that are housed in them, that'll do me. I agree though the aesthetics could be improved, there's definitely something missing there.

PCGS may be tougher graders on some coins but isn't that what good graders should do? Looks after the market and ensures competition. NGC are realising this, now getting tougher on grading and it may be too late for them.

In a subjective field like grading, perception is key.

 

IF PCGS had a Conservation service that would heat up the competition

 

Is that only a rumor that they will be doing that soon?

 

I'll believe it when they start charging for it eheheh...

PCGS also have an invoice fee!

 

...and noting it on their label.

 

PCGS has the "perception" of being tougher because there are less PCGS 69's and 70's graded of almost every Chinese coin that you will search. The reason why is because the total amount that PCGS has graded of any Chinese coin is paltry when compared to the dominance in Chinese coin grading by NGC.

So PCGS has beat NGC to the punch on one attribute is laughable when looking at how far ahead NGC is on ALL ATTRIBUTES of Chinese coins for several years. PCGS is so far behind in Chinese Coin grading that I doubt they ever catch up, at least they are making an attempt.

All a person has to do is look at the majority of high value Chinese coins that are graded and they are sitting in NGC holders. Just for example look at the last Champion auction tells the whole story

I would encourage people to use PCGS as well it will keep the competition tight. Use who makes you happy is the most important thing !

 

pcgs, has in house conservation they just haven't opened it up to the public yet, that 1999 LD SERIF I own with the ghastly milk spots when i called CSR on the phone told me so and said to send my coin and they would try and fix it.........................

 

NGC is getting tougher on grading, that implies that they have been softer in the past.

Perhaps the reason that PCGS hasn't graded as many Chinese coins is for this very reason?

My 03 looks like Catseyes... thats a frosted one isnt it?