Chinese medals - silver isn't the only composition!

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  1. andrewlee10

    andrewlee10 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Silver xi shi ?

    Yes there is silver but hard to come across at eBay.

    Please notes that xi shi is not from official mints but the brass was graded by ngc.
     
  2. mmissinglink

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    For some of us, it doesn't matter if an official mint produces it or not. Some of the best Chinese medals are not made by official mints.

    Also, many of the medals made by the official mints are not low mintage (compared to plenty of other medals from un-official mints) nor are they gaining in value...so why even bother buying official mint medals if this is the case?

    Clearly many of the official mint medals are under performing medals like the Xi-Shi Holding a Pearl. So just because it is from an un-official mint means nothing to some of us who buy medals because of their aesthetic appeal and beauty.



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    For the past few months I have been researching the Xi-Shi medals. They are not easy to find at all.

    I have never seen a silver on eBay and now even the brass and copper can not be found on eBay. The silver is only 50 maximum mintage. I don't know if that maximum has been reached or if the actual mintage is lower than 50. But even if the max 50 were minted, that's a very small mintage so the odds of finding one are remote because they are probably stashed away in collectors safe deposit boxes or safes.




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    I found one silver but no box and Coa. Around 1 k plus
     
  5. mmissinglink

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    That's a very good price considering that the Xi-Shi medals have been hot lately and the fact these are large and heavy medals and that there will be no more than 50 of the silver ever minted. The brass and copper are not easy to find and the silver is a very difficult medal to come by from my experience.




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  7. mmissinglink

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    Xi-Shi Holding a Pearl medal in silver....I am trying to put together the money right now.

    Max mintage of 50...really scarce. As far as medals is concerned, this silver medal epitomizes what Chinese medals should be - awesome design, super low mintage, very big, and silver!




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    In eBay listing is mentioned with original box? :/

    Anyway both silver he listed were gone in less than 48 hours.
     
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    Mmsing do you still plan to post this medal here? Do we need to be ready to buy any remaining ones?!!
     
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    Guys, does anyone know the name of the Mint that produced the xi shi medal and the artist/designer?
    Thanks.
     
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    Probably barsenault.. :lol:
     
  12. mmissinglink

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    Sorry...I've had company over the past couple days and I am just stepping out for a few hours now. My intention is to post at least two really nice medals tonight (one's that have not been mentioned before in this forum that I know of).

    But of course, if you know of any beauties (whether you own or not), please share yourself. Some medals we can all dream of owning.




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    Ooo! I can't wait to see it!!!
     
  14. mmissinglink

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    As some of you might also be, I am a lover of science and a big fan of the cosmos and celestial bodies....these things just fascinate me immensely.

    I am also, as some of you might be, a lover of beauty and beautiful works or art and craftsmanship.

    So perhaps it's no surprise that when the two are joined together (science and beauty) in a Chinese medal, it's going to be a big winner with me.

    Introducing "Transit of Venus".

    But first, a little context of what the Transit of Venus is in astronomy (which is the study of the cosmos):
    "Transits of Venus are among the rarest of predictable celestial phenomena and occur in pairs, eight years apart, which are themselves separated by more than a century....the next pair of transits will occur on 1011 December 2117 and in December 2125"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_of_Venus,_2012



    With no further ado the "Transit of Venus" brass and copper medal set.....
    Produced in 2012
    Size: 70mm
    Weight: more than 300 grams


    Please keep in mind that these 2 medals are still in the sealed plastic pouch so the medals are not going to look exactly as they would if they were seen without the plastic pouch. I took a number of pictures with the lights in various positions and I selected the pictures in which the refracted light off the pouches was least a visual nuisance.

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    Brass medal Box



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    COA of brass medal with number blacked out by me



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    This is the back of the COA of the brass medal with what I believe is the signature of the medal designer.....which is very rare I think. But please correct me if I am wrong if anyone knows for certain.



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    Brass medal Sun side



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    Brass medal Venus side



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    Brass medal Venus side (different angle lighting)




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    Box for copper medal



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    COA of copper medal with number blacked out by me



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    This is the back of the COA of the copper medal with what I believe is the signature of the medal designer.....which is very rare I think. But please correct me if I am wrong if anyone knows for certain.



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    Copper medal Sun side



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    Copper medal Sun side (different angle lighting)



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    Copper medal Venus side



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    Copper medal Venus side (different angle lighting)




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  15. andrewlee10

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    I cannot authentic the signature BUT it is the designer signature in Chinese character.

    Is by non-official mints. However, she is more beauty than my old lady (mexico libetard at home).
     
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    This is incredibly beautiful. Where did you find it. Any more in existence? Any possibility of finding one to buy?
     
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    Stark Active Member Silver Stacker

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    I 100% agree with last poster.:)

    I was one day quickly searching for medals from some old thread on this forum (will post link later; it's also in *show your favorites* on the 2nd page of this subforum) and I was not able to basically find anything.

    Which indicates that:
    -some stuff is extremely rare
    -owners don't want to sell it
    -42
    -all above

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  18. mmissinglink

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    Mintage:

    100 brass
    100 copper
    10 silver



    I came across the seller on eBay a while back and I knew right there and then I had to buy the set because of the beautiful design, subject matter, and very low mintage. The fact that it was produced by a non-official mint wasn't important to me because I am not buying these medals to flip, but rather to appreciate the craftsmanship for many years.

    I will dig up the seller's eBay name...maybe he has another set for sale. I will share that name when I find it.



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    mmissinglink Active Member

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    A more affordable yet beautiful medal is the 2014 65th Anniversary People's Republic of China copper medal. I am not intending to promote any seller by using these pictures, but they are the only one's I have access to. Not as thick as the Xi-Shi or Transit of Venus medals but larger in diameter and priced considerably less.

    Size: 90mm
    Weight: 280 grams




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  20. andrewlee10

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    I like the second photo much. Must ask any ag
     

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