Who is Power Coin? - Zero to Big Market share from out of nowhere?

1for1 said:
SULLA said:
1for1 said:
Damn she angry... i dont think she likes getting registered to a 3rd party with a watermark across her mug
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Saw the following on eBay USA seller's listing:

"Two important federal doctrines are as follows:
1) First Sale Doctrine - once the owner of a copyright item places the item in the stream of
commerce by selling it, he loses his exclusive statutory right to control its distribution.
(Copyright law)
2) Fair Use Doctrine - I can use the trademarked name of the item you are selling - i.e. you can
use Coke if you are selling a Coke item. (Trademark law)"

I believe that if they took that image they would have the right to the Copyright of that particular image and can subsequently watermark it to protect their copyright?

Does anyone know about such things?
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Agree with what your saying and referring to, just one point - the new Dragon Legend Series "Chinese Dragon" used with power coin watermark appears identical to the one on the perth mint site? Is it ok to watermark someone elses image? (all the images on the site seem to be small images of the original mint sourced image as below;

http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/1646_dragons-legend-chinese-dragon-coin-perth-mint.jpg
Perth Mint Image

http://forums.silverstackers.com/up...ns-of-legend-silver-coin-1-tuvalu-1-for-1.jpg
Power Coin Image

I am particularly interested in this as i often use generic pics on google images, so to see it suddenly flooded with powercoin.it watermarks it is puzzling/annoying to me, the optimisation - incredible.
B hard to find non water marked sources now.

I can't see any evidence Power Coin takes there own images (hence this post).. they do however use excellent long tail image tagging which is obviously aiding there image SEO combined with watermarking is certainly an excellent system to run?

1for1
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I guess he's trying to say, if i stole from somebody i don't want anyone else stealing from me.
 
sriblo ag47 said:
I bought from Anthony before too. He's prices on his site are expensive, but he also sells on E-bay.
Some of the coins he put for actions, that's when I bid and win some coins for a cheaper price.

He also send you a note with your coin, saying to leave him a 5 stars rating on a E-bay.

Here is one of his action on E-bay for a new Tuvalu Chinese Dragon.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHINESE-DRA...779?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519f1c1163
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I bought for him two times. And all very good comunication and cheap shipping.
But i win the auctions. The buy now price is more expensive but depend of shipping. If i not remember bad. They ship from hungarian. Not italy.
 
I bought from him once and their service was fantastic. I used google translater to talk to him and it worked fine. I would type my message, have it translated to Italian and then email it to him. He would respond in Italian and I would translate it with the google translator. This is how my family speaks to our extended family in Italy.
 
Jaceravone said:
I bought from him once and their service was fantastic. I used google translater to talk to him and it worked fine. I would type my message, have it translated to Italian and then email it to him. He would respond in Italian and I would translate it with the google translator. This is how my family speaks to our extended family in Italy.
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Just in case if you are not aware, he speaks good English. :)
 
Happy2bme said:
Jaceravone said:
I bought from him once and their service was fantastic. I used google translater to talk to him and it worked fine. I would type my message, have it translated to Italian and then email it to him. He would respond in Italian and I would translate it with the google translator. This is how my family speaks to our extended family in Italy.
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Just in case if you are not aware, he speaks good English. :)
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hahaha
 
sriblo ag47 said:
1for1 said:
SULLA said:
Saw the following on eBay USA seller's listing:

"Two important federal doctrines are as follows:
1) First Sale Doctrine - once the owner of a copyright item places the item in the stream of
commerce by selling it, he loses his exclusive statutory right to control its distribution.
(Copyright law)
2) Fair Use Doctrine - I can use the trademarked name of the item you are selling - i.e. you can
use Coke if you are selling a Coke item. (Trademark law)"

I believe that if they took that image they would have the right to the Copyright of that particular image and can subsequently watermark it to protect their copyright?

Does anyone know about such things?
Click to expand...

Agree with what your saying and referring to, just one point - the new Dragon Legend Series "Chinese Dragon" used with power coin watermark appears identical to the one on the perth mint site? Is it ok to watermark someone elses image? (all the images on the site seem to be small images of the original mint sourced image as below;

http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/1646_dragons-legend-chinese-dragon-coin-perth-mint.jpg
Perth Mint Image

http://forums.silverstackers.com/up...ns-of-legend-silver-coin-1-tuvalu-1-for-1.jpg
Power Coin Image

I am particularly interested in this as i often use generic pics on google images, so to see it suddenly flooded with powercoin.it watermarks it is puzzling/annoying to me, the optimisation - incredible.
B hard to find non water marked sources now.

I can't see any evidence Power Coin takes there own images (hence this post).. they do however use excellent long tail image tagging which is obviously aiding there image SEO combined with watermarking is certainly an excellent system to run?

1for1
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I guess he's trying to say, if i stole from somebody i don't want anyone else stealing from me.
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The image is exactly the same as the PerthMint image. Look at the angle of the coin and the shadows around the edging. Identical!
Unless he had express permission to use those images they have every right to demand he not use their image or face breaches of Copyright Law.
The reason I know of this, I ran a website where we uploaded thousands of images in a different industry. Some we were given permission.
whilst others we decided to use them anyway. When your business depends on those images to help boost your sales over your competitors, it can can come back and bite you as we found out. A few competitors contacted the companies concerned and we were forced to remove all the images from our website, otherwise face a lawsuit combined with being blacklisted. Was not such a good idea. Food for thought!

Cheers markcoinoz
 
Happy2bme said:
Jaceravone said:
I bought from him once and their service was fantastic. I used google translater to talk to him and it worked fine. I would type my message, have it translated to Italian and then email it to him. He would respond in Italian and I would translate it with the google translator. This is how my family speaks to our extended family in Italy.
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Just in case if you are not aware, he speaks good English. :)
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I know, but as they say, When in Rome...... :p
 
pushingtin said:
Powercoin is an authorised distributer for Perth Mint. I dont think they will have a problem with him using their images as he is helping them sell their products.

http://www.perthmint.com.au/perth-mint-coin-distributors-italy.aspx
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Yes but not just using, the watermarking so that they come up as a powercoin image when searching google images is what i was refferal to, a normal person would assume they images were taken by powercoin (as it has their watermark).

1for1
 
JoeFromNorthCarolina said:
Antonello from power coin is a gentleman. He got back with me within an hour or 2 to answer my questions...
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You probably right, his is a gentleman but not because he answers your question quickly. He does it because he is a BUSINESSMAN. I assume your questions were related to owl-wolverine-hedgehog coins?

sriblo ag47 said:
He's prices on his site are expensive
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Yes, you right. He is very expensive. Especially if you consider how many coins they are buying from Mints. You can easily find small dealers/shops having 5 same coins in stock offering better price than him having 50 coins in stock.

IMHO they should not be doing this - watermark, as they use images provided by others like Perth or CIT.

I ma quite surprise I can't find any post from Alex - power coin "ambassador" on this forum :)

Is this man "one man army"? Did anyone gets any replay from other people or from him only
 
Yes but not just using, the watermarking so that they come up as a powercoin image when searching google images is what i was refferal to, a normal person would assume they images were taken by powercoin (as it has their watermark).
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Yeah i get you - this he should not do if he does not own the copyright.
 
Very strange, this is your business so in your own interest is to answer all questions. If you do not answer my question, I am simply not buying anything from you.
Maybe the culture is different here in Europe...
 
picturefun said:
Do NOT use any pictures or description from Talisman coin, they will chasing after you to remove
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:rolleyes:
IMO Talisman World Coin would be smart to spend more time working on their shady business practices than chasing down image infringement.
 
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