What It's Like To Be Poor

[Clawhammer]

TheEnd, one of the best ways to get "noticed" is to turn up early and leave late.

Find something extra to do...especially cleaning up. It's a small thing...but makes a huge difference. Don't make a pest of yourself or appear to be a "suck-hole". Be subtle not to 'show-up' the other workers 'too much'... just enough to stand apart.

If someone asks why you're still around after the shift has ended, just say you "just wanted to finish this little job & besides there nothing to do at home".

Pretty soon, they'll get used to the place being neat and tidy & pleasant while you're around & having the place messy becomes unbearable. They won't be able to put a finger on it... but all they know is things are more pleasant with you around. Then you're at the front of the cue for a Full-time position or more shift hours.

...then you can slack off

 

[TheEnd]

TheEnd, one of the best ways to get "noticed" is to turn up early and leave late.

Find something extra to do...especially cleaning up. It's a small thing...but makes a huge difference. Don't make a pest of yourself or appear to be a "suck-hole". Be subtle not to 'show-up' the other workers 'too much'... just enough to stand apart.

If someone asks why you're still around after the shift has ended, just say you "just wanted to finish this little job & besides there nothing to do at home".

Pretty soon, they'll get used to the place being neat and tidy & pleasant while you're around & having the place messy becomes unbearable. They won't be able to put a finger on it... but all they know is things are more pleasant with you around. Then you're at the front of the cue for a Full-time position or more shift hours.

...then you can slack off

Mate I just did all that last week.....Had the place spotless, re organised and sorted the pallet stacks outside (gees some are to lazy to put in the right stack)........Worked out how to use the wrapping machine properly because it was stopping on everyone, Went thru and did a stock take and wrote EVERY product that was wrong, Even showed one operator how to re charge a forklift properly cos he did'nt have a clue how to check the volatges etc!

Got told buy the only operator that had been there for 12 months that they had employed too many in that part of the warehouse and the new computer system was making things worse not better.....They used to do it all manually....I bloody over it!

 

[Big A.D.]

Vodaphone mobile $60-70 per month.

Sorry TheEnd but you have got to be joking!

my mobile on telstra prepaid costs me $15 per month max - often less

Well I just had a big session with Vodaphone this morning.....Where I live the service rarely works and i've complained afew times and they've told me they're upgrading the system.......This morning I missed a phone call that was work related because it dropped out when i answered.....I was fuming.

Now they're telling me the payout figure $750 ffs! And Telstra's cheapest deal is $60 per month but at least the service always works. My missus is on Telstra too and we think we will cancel hers now?

Vodafone sucks everywhere, not just where you live.

1. Call them.

2. Tell them you're making an official complaint about the quality of the service.

3. Get a reference number (if you haven't got one already from earlier conversations).

4. Tell them you would like a $0 payout to end the contract.

(a) If you haven't finish paying off a handset, offer to return it and then go buy a cheap phone for cash.
(b) If you already own your handset, tell them to go f*** themselves that paying out a service-only contract where the service is substandard is ridiculous and unacceptable.

5. If they don't agree to let you port your number to another carrier, tell them you're going to take the matter to the Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman.

6. They may offer a compromise. Don't take it unless it's extremely close to a $0 penalty for you.

7. Go to www.tio.com.au and register a complaint with the Ombudsman using the form on their website.

8. Sit back and relax while the TIO smacks Vodaphone around the head for you.

 

[Clawhammer]

Wow...how's this for timing. Zero Hedge showing how our housing just keeps getting more...well..more

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-24/look-inside-new-normal-mcmansion

Just throwing this out there as a "maybe because";

We do have economies of scale for consumer goods... but there's so much more to spend today that there wasn't 2-3 generations ago.

Regarding 'housing' for instance, unlike then, we now have houses wired for telecoms, reverse cycle airconditioning, solar hotwater, multiple flatscreen TV's and games systems, plus the 2 cars in the double garage that are consisdered "necessary"..it's all so much more expensive than in the past.

Our expectations of what it is to be middleclass is being more and more tightly constrained and redefined...

We have learned not to try too hard to be middle-class. It never works out well and always makes you feel worse for having tried and failed yet again.

 

[TheEnd]

Thanks Big A.D!............Ye i did get a complaint number sent by sms this morning......Might ring them now and spend another 45 minutes talking to an indian I cannot understand then get switched over to someone else then someone else after that lol!

Your time is up Vodaphone :lol:

 

[trew]

Now they're telling me the payout figure $750 ffs! And Telstra's cheapest deal is $60 per month but at least the service always works. My missus is on Telstra too and we think we will cancel hers now?

I give up

If you've been on unemployment benefits then why on earth are you signed up for a $60+ per month contract ???????
Was it to get a new iphone or something ?

If you do get out from vodaphone -

http://telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/prepaid-mobiles/offers-rates/simplicity/

 

[Newtosilver]

I started a casual job last week...Was told it would be ongoing with possible overtime....Got to friday knock off and asked about this week.......'No sorry its gone quiet'......Back to square one.

At the job agency today for bi weekly appointment asking why employers do this and what the hell is going on.....Response was....'Lots of employess only doing casual now' .....'Very lucky to get full time employment'.....'Its happening in the U.S alot also"....

Rang two places back to get a reply on wether they're going to employ or not....."Nah mate the boss has still got to look at it all, we'll get back to you soon"...

So for those of you calling the poor a bunch of losers........Go out and try and find a job somewhere and let me know how you go?

Oh and try paying for food, internet, house phone, mobile phone, fuel for car and electricty bill on $450 a week!

Your not a looser - get back to basics, get rid of the mobile, do some voluntary work ( someone will notice you ) get off the internet - just change that mind set, many on this forum have seen difficulty, just do something , this forum isn't going to pay living expenses.

Some of you people don't seem to realise how the system works.......You NEED internet to look for jobs these days and apply online....And you NEED a mobile so people can contact you like possible employers.....I had two phone calls about work while at work last week.....Told them i was o.k for work then find out friday i'm actually not... And you also NEED a house phone to make enquiry calls and re calls to find out what thye bloody hell is going on!

Fair enough Centrelink and The gov. want you to be employed, but they bloody dont pay enough to cover the costs of looking for work, travelling to interveiws and bi weekly appointments....... This is what many of you just dont seem to understand?

Latest Teltra Bundle house phone deal (STD calls ffs!) and MINIMUM 50GB internet, last bill $148 for the month.......Vodaphone mobile $60-70 per month.

You can get an Aldi mobile plan unlimited calls and 5 gig of data and. It uses the Telstra network if I remember correctly......

 

[TheEnd]

Your not a looser - get back to basics, get rid of the mobile, do some voluntary work ( someone will notice you ) get off the internet - just change that mind set, many on this forum have seen difficulty, just do something , this forum isn't going to pay living expenses.

Some of you people don't seem to realise how the system works.......You NEED internet to look for jobs these days and apply online....And you NEED a mobile so people can contact you like possible employers.....I had two phone calls about work while at work last week.....Told them i was o.k for work then find out friday i'm actually not... And you also NEED a house phone to make enquiry calls and re calls to find out what thye bloody hell is going on!

Fair enough Centrelink and The gov. want you to be employed, but they bloody dont pay enough to cover the costs of looking for work, travelling to interveiws and bi weekly appointments....... This is what many of you just dont seem to understand?

Latest Teltra Bundle house phone deal (STD calls ffs!) and MINIMUM 50GB internet, last bill $148 for the month.......Vodaphone mobile $60-70 per month.

You can get an Aldi mobile plan unlimited calls and 5 gig of data and. It uses the Telstra network if I remember correctly......

Wow that sounds good....Uses the Telstra network too.....Thers an Aldi 25k's away will go tmrw and check it out!

 

[Clawhammer]

You can get an Aldi mobile plan unlimited calls and 5 gig of data and. It uses the Telstra network if I remember correctly......

Wasn't that the Koogan plan that went T!T$ up just last month?

 

[TheEnd]

Now they're telling me the payout figure $750 ffs! And Telstra's cheapest deal is $60 per month but at least the service always works. My missus is on Telstra too and we think we will cancel hers now?

I give up

If you've been on unemployment benefits then why on earth are you signed up for a $60+ per month contract ???????
Was it to get a new iphone or something ?

If you do get out from vodaphone -

http://telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/prepaid-mobiles/offers-rates/simplicity/

As far as I new a contract with capping was the way to go.......Vodaphone contract is $50 per month but they always seem to bump it up to $60-65.....I dont even make many calls ffs I just text!

And now Telstra are ripping into us with ther new BS bundle that was supposed to save up to $30 a month.......One dumb Kiwi sales girl from the Gold Coast told us all our calls would be free with the new bundle deal a couple of months ago......I asked her twice if that was for sure and she said YES...........I said bno worries thats awesome!

The next week we got a call sayin that deal could not be done anymore and was wrong......tertling shifty A'holes.....Luckily we had'nt actually signed up yet!

And going by the first new invoice from the bundle deal they've jacked the internet usage way up more than previous months too!

 

[Newtosilver]

You can get an Aldi mobile plan unlimited calls and 5 gig of data and. It uses the Telstra network if I remember correctly......

Wasn't that the Koogan plan that went T!T$ up just last month?

Kogan gave you an extra gig and was $5 cheaper than Aldi, Aldi seem to be very good. No problems with them so far, coverage is better than Vodaphone. You need to supply your own phone though which is no big deal. With the Internet you are not supposed to use it as a wifi device and use your tablet or computer and there is a Max usage of 400 mb a day so no downloading movies.

A lot of people pay over a $100 a month for phone and Internet. Pay $35 and put the other $65 into savings / house. If you are struggling the extra cash will help you out a lot.

 

[TheEnd]

You can get an Aldi mobile plan unlimited calls and 5 gig of data and. It uses the Telstra network if I remember correctly......

Wasn't that the Koogan plan that went T!T$ up just last month?

Kogan gave you an extra gig and was $5 cheaper than Aldi, Aldi seem to be very good. No problems with them so far, coverage is better than Vodaphone. You need to supply your own phone though which is no big deal. With the Internet you are not supposed to use it as a wifi device and use your tablet or computer and there is a Max usage of 400 mb a day so no downloading movies.

A lot of people pay over a $100 a month for phone and Internet. Pay $35 and put the other $65 into savings / house. If you are struggling the extra cash will help you out a lot.

OMG I can't keep up with all this tech....Wot the hell is WiFi?....All i want is a cheap phone plan!

 

[Caput Lupinum]

Wot the hell is WiFi?

It's a kids music group like the Wiggles

 

[Newtosilver]

Wot the hell is WiFi?

It's a kids music group like the Wiggles

Lol, nearly peed myself laughing when I read that.......:lol:

 

[TheEnd]

You can get an Aldi mobile plan unlimited calls and 5 gig of data and. It uses the Telstra network if I remember correctly......

Wasn't that the Koogan plan that went T!T$ up just last month?

Kogan gave you an extra gig and was $5 cheaper than Aldi, Aldi seem to be very good. No problems with them so far, coverage is better than Vodaphone. You need to supply your own phone though which is no big deal. With the Internet you are not supposed to use it as a wifi device and use your tablet or computer and there is a Max usage of 400 mb a day so no downloading movies.

A lot of people pay over a $100 a month for phone and Internet. Pay $35 and put the other $65 into savings / house. If you are struggling the extra cash will help you out a lot.

Here's the latest on the Kogan deal going bad......A comment below says 'Amaysim' is the way to go? And these cheap as deals only last 30 days then you gotta go back and get a new simcard again!


http://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/News/Aldi-strips-out-half-data-from-Unlimited-Plan

 

[TheEnd]

Well i'll be damned.......Just typed in Vodaphone on google to try and find a better deal or option and this came up.......Wonder if it was my phone call today that made them realise their product is shit in outer regions and something needs to be done??? They been telling me for months they're 'upgrading' the system!

OMG no wonder they're falling behind, wot a joke....FFS were up Windows 7 and even 8 these days.........read this very last comment!

Mr Wiles said his priorities included upgrading staff computers away from Windows XP and towards newer operating systems, as well as upgrading parts of its Siebel CRM system.

http://www.afr.com/p/technology/vodafone_to_spend_hundreds_of_millions_0qAgnBS6ZbXjBgrCVzvgMI

 

[Caput Lupinum]

Wonder if it was my phone call today that made them realise their product is shit in outer regions and something needs to be done???

Yeah I can't help but agree that your phone call was the criticial piece of the puzzle that was missing

 

[TheEnd]

Now they're telling me the payout figure $750 ffs! And Telstra's cheapest deal is $60 per month but at least the service always works. My missus is on Telstra too and we think we will cancel hers now?

I give up

If you've been on unemployment benefits then why on earth are you signed up for a $60+ per month contract ???????
Was it to get a new iphone or something ?

If you do get out from vodaphone -

http://telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/prepaid-mobiles/offers-rates/simplicity/

Well I just rang Vodaphone to find out how much I pay for sms.....Tried to get a password sent to check online but it bloody would'nt come through a few times so had to ring...that cost me $3 (1300 STD call).

VP have been charging me 30c per text......That Telstra pre paid site says 12c per text.....And calls only 15c per minute...........Plus unused credit roll-over ..........I've been gettin ripped off...........again!

 

[trew]

VP have been charging me 30c per text......That Telstra pre paid site says 12c per text.....And calls only 15c per minute...........Plus unused credit roll-over ..........I've been gettin ripped off...........again!

And that's not the half of it

I've just bought a shitload of telstra $30 prepaid starter kits for $10 each from auspost and officeworks over the past month while on sale

So for $10 I can activate a new sim each month on the prepaid encore cap plan, chuck it in my ipad and get 400Mb of data for a month
On top of that I can transfer the $30 credit to my mobile (that I paid $10 for)
so my calls actually cost 5c per minute and smses 4c each


You got a new phone with your $50 contract - that's what you've been paying for - no such thing as a free lunch

 

[MyNamesNotBen]

Oh and try paying for food, internet, house phone, mobile phone, fuel for car and electricty bill on $450 a week!

$50 - emergency fund (so you don't end up on the dole again)
$70 - food
$20 - mobile
$20 - internet (this isn't really a necessity but you insist. Im on a 15Gig 3G plan with telstra for $80/month and its great, only needs a power point to work. No need for a home phone or dsl line)
$170 - rent a room in a shared house near a bus depot or a train station; this could be split with your S/O. stop using the car all together. if your so poor sell the car.
$50 - public transport costs (way overestimated)
$15 - power bill
$55 - left over! you may even be able to use your car every now and then!

If you have kids things are a little harder but you mention you have an S/O. I would assume she has an income,

Im on ~$520 a week and I'm able to put away $300 of that. It isn't hard