What is your favorite silver round? Please choose my stock

atlonsa said:
Gatito Bandito said:
atlonsa said:
All in different ways, if you plan to sell a lot, then you need to know the nuances.
For example, I live in Russia, and I can buy a lot at one time. But our customs legislation makes doing a lot of small purchases otherwise be the duty of 20-30%!

Therefore, the majority of orders from Russia so strange look - in every job a lot of positions on a few coins, but such orders may be several during the day or a couple of days. Although, if I lived in the West - I would have done without prroblem a common order.

In general, I think that 10, 15 and 20 ounces - a normal practice or one tube / roll for one order.
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Off-topic, but I've read that individuals in Russia can't sell silver bars to other individuals -- only to banks.

Is this true?


How about if one were to sell Russian silver bars to overseas buyers?
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Yes, the sale of bullion bars between individuals - illegal trade of precious metals. It is a criminal offense, you can get a real time or a large fine, at least. In fact, of course other people are selling bullion. But in Russia, its bullion without par none. Or foreign or ordinary weight with stamps banks and Assay Office.
There are tokens mints, but they are not considered bullion and no problems with them, they are expensive.
At the same time bars are sold in Russia with 18% VAT. And investment and any foreign coins without VAT. A paradox - Silver coins cheaper silver bullion.

Sending outside Russia bars - a very big problem, tokens and coins to send easier. The Russian customs all depends on my mood, besides internal regulations are contrary to acts of the Universal Postal Union, which Russia is obliged to observe, so the confusion around.

Example tokens - products of the Moscow Mint - in honor of the accession of Sevastopol and the Crimea. No politics - just an example.
http://i.imgur.com/frNTkq6.jpg?1
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F**k (international) politics, but this coin is actually very nice! :)
I like some of the Russian coins quite a lot, like 2012 Virgo and some kilo ones. Well actually the whole Zodiac is nice and imo probably prettier than most of the other mints. Except I think dragon is not done so good.
 
Stark said:
atlonsa said:
Gatito Bandito said:
Off-topic, but I've read that individuals in Russia can't sell silver bars to other individuals -- only to banks.

Is this true?


How about if one were to sell Russian silver bars to overseas buyers?
Click to expand...
Yes, the sale of bullion bars between individuals - illegal trade of precious metals. It is a criminal offense, you can get a real time or a large fine, at least. In fact, of course other people are selling bullion. But in Russia, its bullion without par none. Or foreign or ordinary weight with stamps banks and Assay Office.
There are tokens mints, but they are not considered bullion and no problems with them, they are expensive.
At the same time bars are sold in Russia with 18% VAT. And investment and any foreign coins without VAT. A paradox - Silver coins cheaper silver bullion.

Sending outside Russia bars - a very big problem, tokens and coins to send easier. The Russian customs all depends on my mood, besides internal regulations are contrary to acts of the Universal Postal Union, which Russia is obliged to observe, so the confusion around.

Example tokens - products of the Moscow Mint - in honor of the accession of Sevastopol and the Crimea. No politics - just an example.
http://i.imgur.com/frNTkq6.jpg?1
Click to expand...

F**k (international) politics, but this coin is actually very nice! :)
I like some of the Russian coins quite a lot, like 2012 Virgo and some kilo ones. Well actually the whole Zodiac is nice and imo probably prettier than most of the other mints. Except I think dragon is not done so good.
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F**k (international) politics?

Sorry to say but these kind of comments really make me mad. These guys with the command of their leader Putin attack another independent country and just take their land. At the same time they even refuse to admit they did so. Would you say f**k politics if you lived there?
I do not know what was the motivation (if any) of atlonsa for showing this coin but for me this is just disgusting

I must say I feel sorry for russians under their current leader. Any free speech is prohibited. What you receive is this kind of crap what this coin is a good example - propaganda. Probably 80-90% of Russians do not have a clue of the true information of world events. It is not their fault. It is the fault of their system. Any information publicly distributed comes from strictly state controlled news media. Almost everything else is illegal. And if you are openly against the system you will be silenced. See how their opposition politics just magically disappear (=got killed) one after one.
 
MoralHazard said:
F**k (international) politics?

Sorry to say but these kind of comments really make me mad. These guys with the command of their leader Putin attack another independent country and just take their land. At the same time they even refuse to admit they did so. Would you say f**k politics if you lived there?
I do not know what was the motivation (if any) of atlonsa for showing this coin but for me this is just disgusting

I must say I feel sorry for russians under their current leader. Any free speech is prohibited. What you receive is this kind of crap what this coin is a good example - propaganda. Probably 80-90% of Russians do not have a clue of the true information of world events. It is not their fault. It is the fault of their system. Any information publicly distributed comes from strictly state controlled news media. Almost everything else is illegal. And if you are openly against the system you will be silenced. See how their opposition politics just magically disappear (=got killed) one after one.
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Shot in the "milk".
I wrote was a real good answer, but decided to limit a reminder that this is a forum stackers, not political.

You will see a windmill and began a heroic assault, although I in my post just "grind grain," that is shown an example of production of the Russian coinage (which was handy). Don Quixote - noble image, but you - not Don Quixote.

Returning to the subject, I forgot to write that Libertad, those coins that I'm always happy to see any weight and quality coinage.
 
MoralHazard said:
Stark said:
atlonsa said:
Yes, the sale of bullion bars between individuals - illegal trade of precious metals. It is a criminal offense, you can get a real time or a large fine, at least. In fact, of course other people are selling bullion. But in Russia, its bullion without par none. Or foreign or ordinary weight with stamps banks and Assay Office.
There are tokens mints, but they are not considered bullion and no problems with them, they are expensive.
At the same time bars are sold in Russia with 18% VAT. And investment and any foreign coins without VAT. A paradox - Silver coins cheaper silver bullion.

Sending outside Russia bars - a very big problem, tokens and coins to send easier. The Russian customs all depends on my mood, besides internal regulations are contrary to acts of the Universal Postal Union, which Russia is obliged to observe, so the confusion around.

Example tokens - products of the Moscow Mint - in honor of the accession of Sevastopol and the Crimea. No politics - just an example.
http://i.imgur.com/frNTkq6.jpg?1
Click to expand...

F**k (international) politics, but this coin is actually very nice! :)
I like some of the Russian coins quite a lot, like 2012 Virgo and some kilo ones. Well actually the whole Zodiac is nice and imo probably prettier than most of the other mints. Except I think dragon is not done so good.
Click to expand...

F**k (international) politics?

Sorry to say but these kind of comments really make me mad. These guys with the command of their leader Putin attack another independent country and just take their land. At the same time they even refuse to admit they did so. Would you say f**k politics if you lived there?
I do not know what was the motivation (if any) of atlonsa for showing this coin but for me this is just disgusting

I must say I feel sorry for russians under their current leader. Any free speech is prohibited. What you receive is this kind of crap what this coin is a good example - propaganda. Probably 80-90% of Russians do not have a clue of the true information of world events. It is not their fault. It is the fault of their system. Any information publicly distributed comes from strictly state controlled news media. Almost everything else is illegal. And if you are openly against the system you will be silenced. See how their opposition politics just magically disappear (=got killed) one after one.
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You completely missed my point. I meant to say that I like this round despite its controversy. As I usually don't buy because I agree or support everything that they represent, but mainly because I like them.
And I wanted to avoid potential political debates here.
As usually thing in (int) politics aren't black and white but more complicated.
I guess then you will also have similar thoughts when buying "Western" coins. As you know most of the West supported "righteous" wars in Afghan, Iraq, Syria, Somalia, etc., etc.
How you will be then offended by coins celebrating Columbus landing in 1492 which eventually lead to enslaving and slaughtering thousands of American Indians?
Or Queen(s) that was silently supporting wars in Middle East.
Or Catholic cross which caused death of millions?
This list can go on and on.
So I prefer when its come to coins and round to judge them by look....;)
 
Stark said:
You completely missed my point. I meant to say that I like this round despite its controversy. As I usually don't buy because I agree or support everything that they represent, but mainly because I like them.
And I wanted to avoid potential political debates here.
As usually thing in (int) politics aren't black and white but more complicated.
I guess then you will also have similar thoughts when buying "Western" coins. As you know most of the West supported "righteous" wars in Afghan, Iraq, Syria, Somalia, etc., etc.
How you will be then offended by coins celebrating Columbus landing in 1492 which eventually lead to enslaving and slaughtering thousands of American Indians?
Or Queen(s) that was silently supporting wars in Middle East.
Or Catholic cross which caused death of millions?
This list can go on and on.
So I prefer when its come to coins and round to judge them by look....;)
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http://forums.silverstackers.com/message-738189.html#p738189
 
I think goldpelican summed it up great:
There's a bit a difference between collecting historical coins from WWII (which ended almost 70 years ago, buying one isn't exactly supporting the Third Reich), and seeking out these alleged coins (do they exist yet?) from an active organisation that probably results in fiat funding flowing to them to support activities that are opposed by likely the vast majority of the planet's population.
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Besides Mexican libertads and Britannias (for both I'm not sure if they are even rounds; at least APMEX treat Libertads as coins :), although they don't have any face value) there are one no one mentioned so far in this topic (I think): XAG. ;)
I like some Zombucks, but I got milkspots on 2 of 4 that I ordered so that kept me away from the series later on.

And NORFEDs which I consider as coins. ;)
 
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