What do you make of colorized Ag coins?
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mmissinglink said:
I did not intend to offend anyone, but I DO consider paint contamination not that I claim anything. To me adding value to a silver coin would be adding more precious material to it such as Gold or Diamonds, but not some cheap paint mass stamped onto it. Is paint any precious ? But that is just me, if people like the painted coins that cool, I don't.
barsenault
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silvestor said:
Funny, but they must be popular or there wouldn't be soooooooooo many of them minted, right? I mean they have everything from animals, cars, ships, bugs, super heroes...list goes on and on. If they weren't popular, then I highly doubt that they would be minting them. Thems are the facts. Those on the forum might not like them...and depending on what coin we're discussing, I may or may like it. The only beef I have with them is the mintage quantity. Many of them are 5,000 or greater in number...that's way too much for a colorized coin...I think. I'm not sure if they have a lot of coins that sell out. A couple that I see in high demand are Santa Maria Great Ships, and of course the Red Spider...
I think the better question would be, What colored coins do you like the best? Or if you were to like colored coins, which one would you choose...aside from the Tiger and Dragon. LOL.
Oh, and for transparency sake, I have quite a few colored coins, and quite a few in each issue. LOL. Santa Maria, Black Dragon, Red Welsh Dragon, Funnel Spider Web, The 4 Snake Series (PM), Yellow Bellied snake (big flop, but details on the coin are quite stunning), Titanic RMS 2229 minted - for each person who died, Emperor Penguin, Shark Bite...a few more in my stack. Some are good, some are flops, some are okay/neutral, etc...
But to say that they are contaminants, or like white spots...that was sort of funny. You should inform the Perth Mint of that, maybe they may stop making colored coins. LMAO. By the way, I don't like colored gold coins. Just doesn't look right to MY EYES. Just say'n.
Santa Maria...whether you like it or not, these have gone up in price from their issue price. However, obviously doesn't mean you need to like it. LOL. I'm just saying there are things that make the world turn that we may not like, but a lot of other people do.
And this image does no justice to the real thing.
I like my coins to be circulating and useful for making purchases.
Once something is produced that can't be used to buy a pint of milk I no longer consider it to be a coin.
In which case you can make it out of soft metal, gild it, paint it, insert gemstones, make it in funny shapes or whatever you want with it.
However I have to ask myself, if I want a colourful picture of a dragon, is a 40mm round piece of metal the best medium to use? And generally the answer is "No.", a big poster would be much better, you can get better colours, more details and it is much cheaper. If I want to spend a bit more money on a colourful picture of a dragon I might by an oil painting of one.
If I want to see a nice example of a dragon in metal, then a coin is still probably not the best medium. Dragons are 3D and even high relief coins are not nearly as interesting as a nice metal statue of a dragon. And you can get a nice range of sizes of dragon statues as well.
So I collect silver circulating world coins to get a bit of variety in my stack and so I can enjoy the different engravers' art. They are usually dirty, old and worn, so I can get them with next to no premium on them.
If I want coloured pictures I just look them up on Google Images and that's it, I don't even bother to download or print them.
I am not sure why the Mints think I would be willing to pay a fortune to complete a set of coloured animal coins, or a set of famous battles or anything else I can Google, I can buy a whole book of animal pictures, plus the same amount of silver, for less than the sets are selling for.
The only reason for picking a set of a coloured animal coins over a picture book of animals is because sometime in the future, someone else might want some animals on a coin and be willing to pay me more than the issue price.
Let's face it, if there was any real market to having pictures on coins the porn industry would be leading the way by now, I might even buy some of the lenticular versions.
Once something is produced that can't be used to buy a pint of milk I no longer consider it to be a coin.
In which case you can make it out of soft metal, gild it, paint it, insert gemstones, make it in funny shapes or whatever you want with it.
However I have to ask myself, if I want a colourful picture of a dragon, is a 40mm round piece of metal the best medium to use? And generally the answer is "No.", a big poster would be much better, you can get better colours, more details and it is much cheaper. If I want to spend a bit more money on a colourful picture of a dragon I might by an oil painting of one.
If I want to see a nice example of a dragon in metal, then a coin is still probably not the best medium. Dragons are 3D and even high relief coins are not nearly as interesting as a nice metal statue of a dragon. And you can get a nice range of sizes of dragon statues as well.
So I collect silver circulating world coins to get a bit of variety in my stack and so I can enjoy the different engravers' art. They are usually dirty, old and worn, so I can get them with next to no premium on them.
If I want coloured pictures I just look them up on Google Images and that's it, I don't even bother to download or print them.
I am not sure why the Mints think I would be willing to pay a fortune to complete a set of coloured animal coins, or a set of famous battles or anything else I can Google, I can buy a whole book of animal pictures, plus the same amount of silver, for less than the sets are selling for.
The only reason for picking a set of a coloured animal coins over a picture book of animals is because sometime in the future, someone else might want some animals on a coin and be willing to pay me more than the issue price.
Let's face it, if there was any real market to having pictures on coins the porn industry would be leading the way by now, I might even buy some of the lenticular versions.
barsenault
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Jislizard said:
Some good thoughts. The only part I disagree with is, to hold the black dragon silver coin up close, is better than looking at it on a piece of paper on a poster...but that's just me. BUT, I get what you are saying. Again, if it weren't successful, and folks weren't clamoring for them, they would have stopped making them a lonnnnnng time ago.
mmissinglink
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Snoopy said:
I think you misunderstand....am not personally offended that you don't like colored coins....I actually don't care much at all that you do or don't. What did and still does irritate me is that what you continue to do is akin to comparing apples to lightning bolts....for the reason I already explained. For me, clarity is much more important than agreement.
Like I said, I really couldn't care less whether someone personally likes color, no color, low relief, high relief, thick or thin, round or square....whatever, that's a personal preference. The fact still remains that no matter how much you might want to try to convince yourself to the contrary, color in a coin design is not contamination....it's a design element as much as devices, a portrait, a rim, the date, a legend, the denomination, any mint mark, gilt or guilding on a coin, any bi-metallic addition in a coin, dentils, whether a coin's edge is reeded or not, etc, etc, etc is also a design element.
Take care....it's pointless to continue discussing this if you still disagree.
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Gatito Bandito
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Well, it's been almost 2 months since I started this thread -- and I've yet to pick up even 1 colorized coin*.. :lol:
(*Not including album toning..)
(*Not including album toning..)
mmissinglink
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Aureus said:
Clearly you are delusional and have missed the entire point. Not surprisingly, you suffer terribly from relying on logical fallacies like Ad Populum, failing as you always do, to add anything meaningful to these discussions.
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mmissinglink
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SilverPete said:
Perhaps it's hand painted? That would account for the qualitative difference. Pictures please, if it's handy.
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Gatito Bandito
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SilverPete said:
Was it done by this artist..? :lol:
I don't have it handy, but this Canadian coin shop has a list of them: http://www.thecoinshoppe.ca/search.php?search_query=Britannia&x=0&y=0mmissinglink said:
I'm delusional am I?mmissinglink said:Aureus said:
Clearly you are delusional and have missed the entire point. Not surprisingly, you suffer terribly from relying on logical fallacies like Ad Populum, failing as you always do, to add anything meaningful to these discussions.
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You had a go at someone who half jokingly said he/she regards colour on coins as contamination, that's not adding to the conversation, that's acting like an ass. I don't think they were after a dictionary definition of the word 'contamination' but hey, could be wrong.
I am sick to death of people ripping into new members for no reason whatsoever, this is becoming a real problem that has to stop or this place will just stagnate.
I tell ya what, I'll strive to be more helpful, let me get the dictionary out and spew out the meanings of some words, but only before telling someone their post was absurd. But where to start?
hmmm, maybe I should type you the definition of sarcasm?
Then I can explain jokes and humor to you, you wait untill you grasp those concepts mate - your world will change.