US ban WeChat

Trump says he's approved Oracle deal for US TikTok operations

The new company, which will be called TikTok Global, has agreed to donate US$5 billion (S$6.8 billion) to an educational fund based in Texas, which Trump said would satisfy his request for a contribution to the government for helping to arrange the deal.

"They're going to be setting up a very large fund," Trump said. "That's their contribution that I've been asking for."

TikTok Global will likely be headquartered in Texas and has said it will hire as many as 25,000 people, Trump said.

for the sake of money $$$
 
mmm....shiney! said:
There, there.

Uncle Xi will give @alor a nice big cuddle.

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Washington unilaterally reimposes UN sanctions on Iran despite opposition from UN Security Council members – including US allies
If UN Member States fail to fulfill their obligations to implement these sanctions, the United States is prepared to use our domestic authorities to impose consequences for those failures and ensure that Iran does not reap the benefits of UN-prohibited activity.
The Americans as a rule act as a bully and impose sanctions. The world community should decide how to act towards bullying.
https://www.rt.com/usa/501182-us-un-sanctions-reimposed-iran/

just like comic strips
 
which world community?
they mean differently to different people lol
HK is China.
there are British passport holders there who are non Chinese
who do not understand the meaning of 1997 handover back to China, the law was written and up to the owner's amendment when she see fit
 
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The word "China" is often misused. Is Taiwan China? Yes, Taiwan is China. So is HK. Each can claim to be the original China.

But Communism isn't a Chinese ideology. It's a European ideology. It conflicts with Chinese culture, which was why it didn't work and they adopted market reforms.

The original Chinese culture is based on Confucianism, Buddhism and Taoism. You'll see more of this in South Korea and Taiwan today. South Korea is more "Chinese" than China.
 
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The word "China" is often misused. Is Taiwan China? Yes, Taiwan is China. So is HK. Each can claim to be the original China.
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The Chinese have always had a collectivist notion of what constitutes China and the Chinese. I'm sure those that want independence from China are quite happy to refer to themselves as being of Chinese origin, but they don't want to be a part of China. The problem is that those in power in mainland China have no concept of the notion of independence, it's a completely foreign concept to most mainland Chinese.

Thomas Jefferson said:
When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident:

That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government.
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Jefferson would likely be on the side of the people of Hong Kong because China in all of it's incarnations over the past centuries has been guilty of subjecting its people to:

"a long train of abuses and usurpations".

China is long overdue for its reformation, its enlightenment.
 
sgbuyer said:
Iran is shia. Indonesia is 90% sunni. They are not on your side. ;)
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Soviet and Mao China were no longer, its Russia and Xi China
same would be with Sunni and Shia, they are just labels, when the support for their allies, you no longer call them Muslim, they are not
they are just labels, the support with the one with one eye, the bread is endless. the god of this world, you can ask anything needed, except life
 
mmm....shiney! said:
The Chinese have always had a collectivist notion of what constitutes China and the Chinese. I'm sure those that want independence from China are quite happy to refer to themselves as being of Chinese origin, but they don't want to be a part of China. The problem is that those in power in mainland China have no concept of the notion of independence, it's a completely foreign concept to most mainland Chinese.



Jefferson would likely be on the side of the people of Hong Kong because China in all of it's incarnations over the past centuries has been guilty of subjecting its people to:

"a long train of abuses and usurpations".

China is long overdue for its reformation, its enlightenment.
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Jefferson's bones is allowed to be flown to HK, so long they ask first lol
the last hundred years, inclusive of the Kuomintang Nationalist China that flee to Taiwan island lol true indeed
 
alor said:
Soviet and Mao China were no longer, its Russia and Xi China
same would be with Sunni and Shia, they are just labels, when the support for their allies, you no longer call them Muslim, they are not
they are just labels, the support with the one with one eye, the bread is endless. the god of this world, you can ask anything needed, except life
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Soviet is no more, but Mao's revolution still exists.
 
After reading everything alor as written, it seems Chinese people love having little freedoms and support the CCP. So that must also mean they support Trump banning WeChat, as this further reduces the freedoms they seem to hate (according to alor). :) I mean if they can love the Chinese government limiting what they do, then they must also love other governments limiting what they do too.
 
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alor said:
whatever yo say, you just heard that from propaganda videos, nothing from the horses mouths
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Nothing to see here.....it's all propaganda.....we're the victims!
I guess that's really all you have to offer.

alor said:
to you may be a negative, but to them it can be a positive, even if its a negative, those would just be easily overlooked
they would not thank Trump for bringing the people more united and standing up against the US
but they are sure and determined to push back and stand up to go against those policies, in their own best interests
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You didn't answer my question. I asked what do you, as an individual, consider to be the main negative aspects of the CCP?
I didn't ask for drivel about Trump & Chinese people as a collective.
 
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