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hobo-jo said:
I get the feeling this sharp correction may have just been the start of a long drawn out correction and consolidation phase for Silver.

I don't think it's unreasonable to consider that we might see Silver back to low 20s like it was only 6 months ago.

What makes you think so? Surely not the abundance of physical silver there for the taking...
 
Yippe-Ki-Ya said:
hobo-jo said:
I get the feeling this sharp correction may have just been the start of a long drawn out correction and consolidation phase for Silver.

I don't think it's unreasonable to consider that we might see Silver back to low 20s like it was only 6 months ago.

What makes you think so? Surely not the abundance of physical silver there for the taking...

Let me guess... you weren't buying silver back in 2008, were you?

The same crap was being peddled back then. Silver went on a big run and all of a sudden everyone wanted to go all in. The price shot through $20 US in March 2008 and premiums were going through the roof because the people supplying investment silver products couldn't keep up with demand. Physical silver was impossible to get a hold of.

By December the price was down below $9 US. Of course then you had a hard time finding silver because all the long-term stackers wanted in!

The exact same thing is playing out today. When silver was doing nothing, just hovering around $20, nobody wanted it. Then the price took off and all of a sudden everyone piled in and the people producing investment products couldn't keep up with demand. There is no physical shortage of silver - any of the big dealers will be able to supply you with 100kg+ right now, you'll just have to wait for it.

If you're a long term stacker your only rule should be buy the dips. There was absolutely no reason to be buying in the $40s, it was just people buying on emotion and greed.
 
hobo-jo said:
Yippe-Ki-Ya said:
What makes you think so? Surely not the abundance of physical silver there for the taking...
I'm not predicting it does so, but I think it's best to keep open to the possibility.

After the 2006 peak it corrected to within around 10% of the 2004 peak. After the 2008 peak it corrected to below the 2006 peak. Silver is volatile, both on the way up and on the way down. Retracing to around the $20-$22 breakout area is a possibility.

IMO the end of QE2 is going to be devastating for commodities.

I don't yet believe Silver has the solid foundation as money like Gold does, so may act as a commodity with any corrections.


Will QE2 end tho ? or just roll over to QE3 ? The U.S is due to reach it's debt ceiling Tuesday our time and has until August to decide what happens before default . Will Ben Banky just let all his hard work slide and throw his hands in the air ?
 
oasis said:
If you're a long term stacker your only rule should be buy the dips. There was absolutely no reason to be buying in the $40s, it was just people buying on emotion and greed.

Hindsight is a wonderful tool with which to pick the "dips" aint it?
 
Yippe-Ki-Ya said:
silverfunk said:
PrettyPrettyShinyShiny said:
REALLY??? Nah it isn't. Get them to put their money where their mouth is and take a florin in ANY shop. It ain't gonna happen. Savour the time right now.. if you think it's mainstream now, you're gonna get a hell of a fright when your coffee shop takes threepences and sixpences for some glory beans and bananas bread!

omg you didnt get that I was trying to be ironic and funny lol.

its like when you hear a new band and everyones like, I liked them when they were underground or not known now everyone listens to them.

haha but I like yr analogy.

its not obvious you were joking because you're among a sea of morons here who actually believe that

lol calling me a moron?

pot calling the kettle black.

so we are all morons because we arent permabulls / silver cheerleaders like you?

i am glad we have you on these forums you do keep most of us entertained.
 
silverfunk said:
Yippe-Ki-Ya said:
silverfunk said:
omg you didnt get that I was trying to be ironic and funny lol.

its like when you hear a new band and everyones like, I liked them when they were underground or not known now everyone listens to them.

haha but I like yr analogy.

its not obvious you were joking because you're among a sea of morons here who actually believe that

lol calling me a moron?

pot calling the kettle black.

so we are all morons because we arent permabulls / silver cheerleaders like you?

i am glad we have you on these forums you do keep most of us entertained.

I'm far from a permabull, but i am capable of seeing that we're in the midst of a PMs bull market where both gold and silver are still way undervalued compared to other asset classes. i guess if you're incapable of seeing that - well if the shoe fits wear it
 
I agree with you, yes we are in a bull market.
Ag will go up, it will go down and it will go sideways...this is what happens in bull markets and this is what is happening now. (my opinion)
What annoys me though is that those that are cautious on here and do not cheer lead or are perma bullish are often ostracized for their opinion and called bears or almost "silver traitors"
Their seems to be this whole religion/fanaticism associated with silver and its becoming quite annoying.
 
silverfunk said:
I agree with you, yes we are in a bull market.
Ag will go up, it will go down and it will go sideways...this is what happens in bull markets and this is what is happening now. (my opinion)
What annoys me though is that those that are cautious on here and do not cheer lead or are perma bullish are often ostracized for their opinion and called bears or almost "silver traitors"
Their seems to be this whole religion/fanaticism associated with silver and its becoming quite annoying.

I see your point, but i still think you're becoming annoyed very prematurely.
there will come a time - some years from now - when it will be apparent that PMs have reached their maximum value relative to other asset classes, and will eventually begin to lose value to other asset classes.
at that point in time i would also become annoyed at people who claim that PMs are still the best investment class possible.

now however you're very premature in your annoyance.
 
But how did you know that when the spot was 40s that it was not going up any further? I mean, unless you have insider info, you would not know at that time that 3 days later it went down hill, would you? So normal person would thought better buy it now at 40 before it goes 50.
 
hobo-jo said:
southerncross said:
Will QE2 end tho ? or just roll over to QE3 ? The U.S is due to reach it's debt ceiling Tuesday our time and has until August to decide what happens before default . Will Ben Banky just let all his hard work slide and throw his hands in the air ?
I don't think the US Public or foreign holders of US denominated assets would allow QE3 at this point, but given the right motivation (e.g. another deflationary scare like 2008) they will once again be begging Bernanke to turn the printing press back on.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think that QE2 will be the end of money printing for good... but I think a 3-6+ month correction in most assets is likely if we don't see the Fed monetary base continue to expand.

How will they pay the bills if they don't go straight into QE3?

This link is how i see it : http://www.younggunstrading.com/2011/04/qe3-will-happen.html - "QE3 Will happen"
 
hobo-jo said:
Ilikemetals said:
How will they pay the bills if they don't go straight into QE3?
This link is how i see it : http://www.younggunstrading.com/2011/04/qe3-will-happen.html - "QE3 Will happen"
The Fed will continue purchasing treasury securities as others on it's balance sheet mature.

I don't believe they can play that game for very long. I believe Bill Gross has stated that the Fed is buying 70% of the new issues. That would mean funding 70-100bb USD each month. Maturing treasuries would not help as the reinvestment of those funds would be net neutral. So only the principal and interest received from the junk dumped upon the Fed by the banks will help fund the deficit. The Fed probably has enough already matured and maturing junk to last 2-4 months, but then QE3 must happen or things start falling apart. 2012 is a presidential election year.

If QE3 is not going to happen soon, why are they so desperate to raise the debt ceiling?
 
Turd's latest call from here -> http://tfmetalsreport.blogspot.com/2011/05/interesting-week-ahead.html

Ultimately, this post is concerned with what we can expect for the next six weeks as we head toward first notice day for the July11 contract, so here's what I anticipate:
1) Silver continues to base this week between $33 and $35.
2) By Friday but no later than next Wednesday, silver will be chugging higher.
3) Applying a 26.23% gain to a low of $33 or $34 gives us a price target of $42-43 by 6/29/11, the first notice day of the July11 contract.

For those keeping score at home, two weeks ago I was expecting silver to only correct to about 45, not 35. I then expected a 40+% rally toward $65, not a 26% rally to $43. The severity of this correction has forced me to alter these forecasts but the pattern remains.

Therefore, I will look to be a buyer this week if/when silver retreats again to the area between 33 and 34. I will probably be buying July $40 calls. I may even sell some 43s or 45s against them to create a spread. I'll let you know. The main thing and the point of this exercise is to illustrate for you that the savage beating silver has taken over the past two weeks was brutal but not unexpected. Pattern and timing now strongly suggest that silver will once again swing higher very soon. Be patient but have faith. Opportunity again awaits just over the horizon.
 
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