Yippe-Ki-Ya said:For all the dumbbells out there - who unfortunately appear to be in the majority on this blog at present - this article was simply meant to indicate one of the many arguements in support of the silver price rising over time - in this case the factor being that the 'easy' silver has already been had.
Irondog said:Advances in Materials Science, mining technology and renewable energy will likely create substitutes for, and increase supplies of, silver. As countries/corporations begin to mine the vast ocean floors, Arctic and Antarctic regions, it will become clear to all that nearing a critical point of silver depletion is something that won't happen for a long, long time....
"In July[2011], China received approval by the United Nations' Jamaica-based International Seabed Authority (ISA), which regulates mineral exploration in international waters, to explore for polymetallic sulphide deposits in the Southwest Indian Ridge, between Africa and Antarctica.
China will be allowed to explore the area for 15 years, covering about 10,000-square-kilometres.
In early August, Russia received approval by the ISA to begin prospecting in the mid-Atlantic.
Under a 15-year agreement to be signed later this year, Russia will have rights to explore a 10,000-square-kilometre area midway between Africa and South America, according to The Moscow Times.
The area of interest is estimated to contain 50 to 70 million tonnes of gold and copper ore."
Of course, significant quantities of silver are often found in gold/copper ores.
http://www.miningaustralia.com.au/news/mining-in-the-arctic-on-thin-ice
"World silver mine production increased to 22,200 tons as a result of increased production at new and existing polymetallic mines. Global silver output increased owing to a full year's production from the San Cristobal Mine in Bolivia, the Dolores and Parmarejo Mines in Mexico, and the Kupol property in Russia. Production from several mines in Argentina also increased. Silver production increased at lead-zinc mines, such as the Lucky Friday Mine in Idaho, where production was at its highest level in 10 years. Production at the Greens Creek Mine in Alaska also increased owing to improved mining techniques, and production from the Bingham Canyon Mine in Utah increased because of increased mill throughput. In July, the Rochester Mine in Nevada was preparing to mine new ore zones that would extend mine life by several years.
Substitutes: Digital imaging, film with reduced silver content, silverless black-and-white film, and xerography substitute for silver that has traditionally been used in black-and-white as well as color printing applications. Surgical pins and plates may be made with tantalum and titanium in place of silver. Stainless steel may be substituted for silver flatware, and germanium added to silver flatware will make it tarnish resistant. Nonsilver batteries may replace silver batteries in some applications. Aluminum and rhodium may be used to replace silver that was traditionally used in mirrors and other reflecting surfaces. Silver may be used to replace more costly metals in catalytic converters for off-road vehicles."
This is quoted from the same USGS data featured in BrotherJohnF's video several days ago.
http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/silver/mcs-2011-silve.pdf
If you believe silver will soon be depleted, please provide links to the supporting data. There are "bottlenecks" in the production of bullion, and other, silver products as well as an unwillingness, by some dealers, to sell at low spot prices, giving some the impression silver is running out. If only that were true...
fishball said:Owned.
downer said:So sure, Silver will rise in price as economical resource slowly deplete and energy costs rise, but improvements in technology and substitution will ensure we dont run out in our lifetime. Silver is probably a very very long term play which may work out in your lifetime, maybe not. Feel free to quote this back to me in 30 years if I am wrong.
roman1613 said:what is SAVVVIE?
I know of sav vy but that's about it...
Yippe-Ki-Ya said:pmstacker said:Yippe-Ki-Ya said:There may be plenty of silver left under the earth's surface, but the low hanging fruit has already been plucked! getting at this silver is going to get progressively more difficult and more importantly - more expensive...
SAVVVIE??!!?? :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Now i understand .... So you would have been the kind of caveman who plucks all the fruit when the branch sags low but rolls over and dies when you have to invent a ladder or god forbid a pully to get the nice plentiful juicy fruit just a little above :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Thank god not everyone is like you otherwise the human race would be extinct :lol: :lol: :lol: ill make it easy, lets say someone builds the ladder or the pully, what do you think will happen to the supply of fruit :lol: :lol: :lol:
None of what you say makes sense ... engineers are smart people, if we need silver that badly they will work out a repeatable process which at first might be expensive but later become cheaper and cheaper. this is just like any process in engineering
486 computers used to cost $2000 + now computers 100's of times more powerful cost 1/4 the price, mobile phones used to cost $1000 now devices cost half that and do many many more things. Its all about repeatable process. The same idea goes with mining processes, civil , telecommunications, mechanical and any other form of engineering.
What about oil, Look at the transition today, as we see start to run out of oil we got solar, wind and other replacements so once we are totally out the other forms of tech will takes its place, people in silicon valley are actively innovating in greentech and is currently one of the hottest areas of innovation right now cause we need to find a replacement, plus there is money to be made. If we need silver that badly there will be a boom in silvertech :lol: . Its only natural :lol:
only your mama could luv you ... :lol:
Yippe-Ki-Ya said:I sincerely doubt we'd even need ten
Yippe-Ki-Ya said:roman1613 said:what is SAVVVIE?
I know of sav vy but that's about it...
ummm ... it's an alternate spelling - to get around GP's "ban" on the actual word...
SAVVVIE?? :lol:
chimpanchu said:I for one don't believe oil is produced by a bunch of dead animals thousands of years ago! Come on man, we've been using oil for about 100 years no, at the rate we are burning oil in the last 100 years... how many dead animals can there be to provide 100 years of human oil-use.
Oil and gas are just like iron, copper, gold, silver, diamond, etc... the product of Earth's geological process. However, I'm not saying we will never "run-out" of oil to use, if we pump more oil at faster rate than the Earth can re-produce, we will "run-out" (so to speak).
I think this "fossil" fuel talk, is just a propaganda machine by oil cartels to create artificial view of scarecity.
Irondog said:Advances in Materials Science, mining technology and renewable energy will likely create substitutes for, and increase supplies of, silver. As countries/corporations begin to mine the vast ocean floors, Arctic and Antarctic regions, it will become clear to all that nearing a critical point of silver depletion is something that won't happen for a long, long time....
That does not sound like cheap silver to me. Mighty USA needed how many weeks just to plug one hole under water?
And silver is still too cheap to mine in most silver mines in USA. Those mines are not under water and yet they do not produce.
There will always be silver - but at what price?
pmstacker said:None of what you say makes sense ... engineers are smart people
euphoria said:pmstacker said:None of what you say makes sense ... engineers are smart people
Can we get a +1 button?
Yippe-Ki-Ya said:euphoria said:pmstacker said:None of what you say makes sense ... engineers are smart people
Can we get a +1 button?
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It's not that hard to understand ... you just need a bit of commonsense - which i admit is in short supply around here :lol:
euphoria said:Yippe-Ki-Ya said:euphoria said:Can we get a +1 button?
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It's not that hard to understand ... you just need a bit of commonsense - which i admit is in short supply around here :lol:
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