The "scary parallel" - today's situation and the 1929 crash

TreasureHunter

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Perhaps some of you saw this already, perhaps it's been posted already. But I didn't see it here on SilverStackers.com, so I thought I'd post it...

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An article about it:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/scary-1929-market-chart-gains-traction-2014-02-11

Some call it "fallacy":
http://www.financial-math.org/blog/2014/02/the-scary-chart-fallacy/
 
SilverPete said:
We'll probably only know in hindsight.


No. You already know what this is if you both to check the DJIA.

This is just an example of promulgating fear, uncertainty and doubt due to one being emotionally prone or predisposed to accepting such messages.

The DJIA is currently at 17,554 and those betting on a fall are calling for a collapse, while those betting on continued increases are calling for rises.

Here's where that chart is at the moment.

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Can be filed in the cylindrical receptacle under the desk.
 
There's so many things different today compared to 1929. I can't see how there could possibly be any relationship.
 
willrocks said:
There's so many things different today compared to 1929. I can't see how there could possibly be any relationship.

For instance they close the market and print more money if it looks wobbly!
 
JulieW said:
willrocks said:
There's so many things different today compared to 1929. I can't see how there could possibly be any relationship.

For instance they close the market and print more money if it looks wobbly!
I dont know how they cant be in such mass printing mode & the USD is going up ...it defies logic .
 
No derivatives in 1929, also debt levels government and private higher this time around.

Regards Errol 43
 
willrocks said:
There's so many things different today compared to 1929. I can't see how there could possibly be any relationship.

Yeah they were much more responsible and level headed back then
 
They just sopped QE.

The dollar is getting stronger, watch PM's go even lower...

2015 might be another agonizing bearish year.
 
TreasureHunter said:
They just sopped QE.

The dollar is getting stronger, watch PM's go even lower...

2015 might be another agonizing bearish year.

Nothing promising with the Australian economy either. Prepare for a steady AUD decline.
 
Are you a financial journalist for one of the mainstream newspapers treasurehunter ?

:lol:
 
trew said:
Are you a financial journalist for one of the mainstream newspapers treasurehunter ?

:lol:

Trust me, he's not. No one here is as dumb as a MSM financial reporter. And that is setting the bar pretty low.
 
TreasureHunter said:
trew said:
Are you a financial journalist for one of the mainstream newspapers treasurehunter ?

:lol:

I am a humble independent economist :)
Or maybe.... you're secretly a director at the RBA or the FED and come to SilverStackers to try to work out how to sort out the economic mess we're in.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw[/youtube]
 
From this morning's SMH.

Most global economic news points towards another global recession becoming more likely, says David Levy. Predictors of 1929 crash see 65% chance of 2015 recession
SIMON KENNEDY

In 1929, a businessman and economist by the name of Jerome Levy didn't like what he saw in his analysis of corporate profits. He sold his stocks before the October crash.

Almost eight decades later, the consultancy company that bears his name declared "the next recession will be caused by the deflating housing bubble." By February 2007, it predicted problems in the subprime-mortgage market would spread "to virtually all financial markets." In October 2007, it saw imminent recession - the slump began two months later.

The Jerome Levy Forecasting Center, based in Mount Kisco, New York, and run by Jerome's grandson David, is again more worried than its peers. Its half-dozen analysts attach a 65 percent probability of a worldwide recession forcing a contraction in the US by the end of next year.

That call runs counter to the forecasts of Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs Group The two banks posit an expansion that has plenty of room to run.

"Clearly the direction of most of the recent global economic news suggests movement toward a 2015 downturn," chairman David Levy told clients in an October 23 edition of a monthly forecasting report, which at over 60 years purports to be the oldest of its kind.

Why the gloom? Levy argues the US and many advanced economies still have balance-sheet excesses exposing them to renewed financial crisis. There is limited room for policy makers to reverse any slump, and low inflation risks tipping into deflation in many parts of the world.

US exposure
While the US is doing relatively well, Levy is worried that at about 13 per cent of gross domestic product, US exports represent their largest share ever.

American companies also are getting a historically large proportion of earnings from abroad and households are vulnerable to any bear market because their ratio of stocks to disposable income is higher than at any point aside from the start of this century, he said.

Granted, there have been some misfires. In September 2010, Levy told Bloomberg Television that he saw a 60 per cent chance of another US recession. Instead the world's largest economy has gained in strength.

The upshot of the latest forecast is that even if a slump is avoided, the Federal Reserve will keep interest rates near zero until the next decade, according to Levy.

"Without first strengthening substantially, we think it highly unlikely that global financial stability will hold together long enough for the Fed to signal and execute a rate increase," he said.
 
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