The Bullion Brotherhood

miniroo

miniroo

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The bullion industry is like the kebab shop industry, everyone's got their own idea on how it should be done.
the stores are all over the place, spot prices are the same everywhere yet bullion varies at every store, postage varies, terms & conditions vary etc etc.

imagine this, if every silver stacker here thought the same way, or agreed to go the same way in bullion purchases.
we as a whole could absolutely smash a product through the roof!

I have seen this done in an unintentional way in another collectable, where one product was so popular, it created a wave of interest that shot the prices up crazy.
aventually everything and anything was popular again.

Here's my thoughts, there's some clever cookies here, i'd love for them to chime in and work out how to do this.

ready?

here goes..

We pick a silver coin, let's just say the next 1 oz silver perth mint coin off the press, hopefully it's a bullion kangaroo but no matter, just the next popular silver 1oz bullion coin, a kook.

We all focus on that one issue, everyone!
before the world finds out, we have the entire stock, it would be awesome.
we could then do it on a select issue maybe every 6 months or until sell out.

aventually everyone will catch on so it'll have to then be through a secret membership, a bullion brothers clan.
the message goes out, the selected issue is chosen, we buy discreetly, just suck it all in, and keep going.

could that work?
the objective is to corner the market of our chosen coin before it's noticed, with many hundreds of stackers here pulling it all in, it would work I think.
eventually I can see SS in competition with the kitco bullion clan, each of us plotting our next coin issue takeover.

can we do it for just one issue and see how it goes? nothing to lose.
 
Obviously it would have to be a limited edition coin otherwise the mints can just keep churning them out, so not Koalas.

Obviously it would be something that the dealers don't ship 80% of them overseas, so the 1oz lunars are not likely.

Most mints advertise coins well in advance so you would have to act quickly.

Wasn't something like this already tried with the Stock Horse, to good effect? (What he said ^)
 
I think the way to a bullion brotherhood is helping others in avoiding to pay the prices bloated by the money for nothing brotherhood.
The best advertisement for the silver market is a price that changes as much as the prices of the products that people use money as inbetween step to.
The central planning thieves and their buddies / money for nothing-brothers work together to accomplish their theft.
We should do the same against their theft.
Some TA guys won't like this though. :D
 
oh ok, but that's with a 1000 print, that's too obvious, would of sold out anyway and it's not in the general bullion group.
that's chicken feed, $59,000 could of bought the whole lot, I never heard of it and neither has the world.

I'm talking the real stuff, the stuff no-one expects to sell so quickly, a 500,000 issue kookaburra or the likes.
let 'em keep printing up to mintage limits, but it needs to be mainstream bullion.
the obvious one is the 2015 kookaburra, if hundreds of people are buying it, it wouldn't be noticed.
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How many of the Kookaburra can you buy direct from the Mint at issue price?

How many get sent abroad to the overseas dealers, Germany, America etc. Who wants to pay to get them sent back

How many are pre ordered by the Bullion dealers? Who wants to pay inflated prices from the dealers

Are they initially limited like the Lunars were, 10 per person?

I know we could easily hoover up all the 1oz lunars because we had massive complaints about them going overseas and we tried to place pre-orders for most of the mintage.

However half a million coins at $34 each is going to cost a lot of money, and the only way it works is if you can control the release back onto the market, if everyone dumps the coins at the same time then there will be a glut and prices will drop.

What you need to do is corner the market, which you could probably do for under $2 million. Then you would need to melt most of them, get them down to maybe only 10 remaining, you can get your money back on the silver bars.

Then you can make a bit of money flogging the extremely limited mintage...

In fact, next time a stock horse coin comes out you just buy up the entire 1000 mintage and melt the whole damn lot except 1 of them.
 
Cornering a pickpecked market is as useless as banning a color: people will go for the other colors. Simply because the pickpecking implies alot alternatives.
 
I recall this forum cornering the Clownfish market a few years ago :)

Didn't work out so well.
 
If you were to do it, it would need to be part of a set that people are already collecting, otherwise people would just ignore it.

You'd basically need to place pre-orders so you could get 80%+ of the stock, wait as the 20% you didn't get is trading and the prices go up, then release them slowly.
 
yeah which would be the kookaburra.

My idea was not to flip for a quick profit. or to all of a sudden create a shortage.
it would be over the entire year, so instead of 500 members all buying a mix of generic coins,
official coins, 1 oz bars, 10 oz bars etc over the entire year, they just buy the same thing, the kook's for the year.

Giving everyone the year to stack it, without any fuss, no price increases.
perth mint doesn't give out sales figures during the year, it will be the following year it's known it's a sell out,
with none available the next year, they go up in value naturally, i'm not suggesting it's a deceitful brotherhood.

another way to increase your own share of the issue would be to sell your generic silver to the dealers,
loading them up and using that cash to buy more of the kook's.

so if 500 people all bought 2015 kook's and nothing else with the cash they were going to spend in 2015,
and swapped some generic silver for 2015 kook's aswell, could be 500 oz each on average, well that would be 250,000 kooks there.
then you got the bigger buyers that could polish off the rest.

so then a few years down the track, people will want 2015 kooks, 500,000 issued so they can't make anymore.
we all then have a good stock of them, not to flog but for the personal stash, they will only appreciate in value.
 
Perth mint will indicate if the mintage almost reached, i remember there was a newsletter mentioning kook 2014 was halfway through the mintage, and just about every dealer will raise the alarm bell telling everyone the mintage is almost reached?

So if you were to plan to buy out as mich as the mintage you can...you neex to knock out the european/german dealer out first...before anything else.
 
German members buy from german dealers, american members buy from american dealers.
just normal like it is.

exactly like this years kook', you say therre was a newsletter stating 250,000 + already sold?
well, are the kook's any higher in price? no.
because that's normal, so will 2015 be, except at the end of the year, the brotherhood are the actual main stake holders.
 
I'd much prefer to quietly stack 100oz bars at just over spot then play cowboys and Indians.
 
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