The Biggest Theft in the History of Mankind

When Armageddon comes, I'm a getting out of here.

This is an interesting scenario. It makes more sense since the Ukraine than before. It is not high on my list of future outcomes, but variations of such may still come about. I think governments would more likely confiscate the larger holdings like ETFs and other large gold stockpiles first.
 
ego2spare said:
dagsgarrett said:
In my opinion it would be easier to rape the people of their wealth than spend large amounts of money trying to fight large multinational mining corporations in the court system, whilst also trying to defend their actions in the midst of systematic advertising campaigns from those same companies to the public at large. They will start at the bottom and work their way up I believe.

u think australia or any other nation would easily tear apart its people before taking over (and compensating) 1 or 2 companies?.. i dont think your thinking this through at all.
Yes indeed! Have you not noticed the incestual relationship between large corporations and government, the revolving doors, corporate capture, the influence of lobbying and election funding, and the actions of governments over recent years especially during the GFC?

Did you see this recent study?

[h]Princeton Study: U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy[/h]

A new study from Princeton spells bad news for American democracynamely, that it no longer exists.

Asking "[w]ho really rules?" researchers Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page argue that over the past few decades America's political system has slowly transformed from a democracy into an oligarchy, where wealthy elites wield most power.

Using data drawn from over 1,800 different policy initiatives from 1981 to 2002, the two conclude that rich, well-connected individuals on the political scene now steer the direction of the country, regardless of or even against the will of the majority of voters.

"The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy," they write, "while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/princeton-experts-say-us-no-longer-democracy
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/princeton-scholar-demise-of-democracy-america-tpm-interview
 
The lead indicators of any such events I have outlined occurring will be the growing and very deliberate media coverage in (Australia anyway) of the theft of private citizens holdings of precious metals, the majority of these theft will involve the private storage of citizens SMSF holdings, which will then be followed by changes to SMSF legislation disallowing the private storage of holdings. Although it is now hard to insure private holdings over $5,000 this will also become disallowed or no longer covered.

Now that all private holding have to be stored in reputable or government owned depository storage they are now easy pickings for the powers to be. In regards to whether it would be easier to nationalise the mines first if this was the case wouldn't their already be legislation in place which would entitle such a thing. To the best of my knowledge the Reserve Bank Act 1959 only applies to persons not corporations. I am not suggesting that they wouldn't nationalise the mines simple that the corporations will come after they have taken the peoples gold first. As this is when the price of gold and silver will increase dramatically lining the pockets of governments yet quickly becoming out of reach of the private citizens. It is also of interesting note that section 48 of the Act the RBA has the power to exempt a person from the provisions of the act, you can bet your bottom dollar that won't be you or me.
 
SilverPete said:
ego2spare said:
dagsgarrett said:
In my opinion it would be easier to rape the people of their wealth than spend large amounts of money trying to fight large multinational mining corporations in the court system, whilst also trying to defend their actions in the midst of systematic advertising campaigns from those same companies to the public at large. They will start at the bottom and work their way up I believe.

u think australia or any other nation would easily tear apart its people before taking over (and compensating) 1 or 2 companies?.. i dont think your thinking this through at all.
Yes indeed! Have you not noticed the incestual relationship between large corporations and government, the revolving doors, corporate capture, the influence of lobbying and election funding, and the actions of governments over recent years especially during the GFC?

Did you see this recent study?

[h]Princeton Study: U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy[/h]

A new study from Princeton spells bad news for American democracynamely, that it no longer exists.

Asking "[w]ho really rules?" researchers Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page argue that over the past few decades America's political system has slowly transformed from a democracy into an oligarchy, where wealthy elites wield most power.

Using data drawn from over 1,800 different policy initiatives from 1981 to 2002, the two conclude that rich, well-connected individuals on the political scene now steer the direction of the country, regardless of or even against the will of the majority of voters.

"The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy," they write, "while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/princeton-experts-say-us-no-longer-democracy
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/princeton-scholar-demise-of-democracy-america-tpm-interview
And as highlighted in the Mises Daily a couple of days ago, highlights why we should all welcome moving away from centralisation of power in the Australian Government (as per ALP/Green plans) and devolve it back toward the states (as per the Coalition plans) [or ideally even further].
 
ego2spare said:
dagsgarrett said:
I guess history will be the judge on whether I was right or not?

there is alot more gold and silver in countries (not including bank holdings) in wedding bands necklaces and other jewelry than bullion. people who keep saying it will be confiscated must also think the worlds governments are going to go around door to door with guns and hessian sacks and demand everyones wedding bands. its just not ever going to happen ever. the world is not the same as it was 90 years ago. people these days would not put up with shit.

correct me if Im wrong but the same happened in the US around 1977(or 87)??? that was not long ago....
 
ego2spare said:
... the worlds governments are going to go around door to door with guns and hessian sacks and demand everyones wedding bands. its just not ever going to happen ever. the world is not the same as it was 90 years ago. people these days would not put up with shit.
I truly hope you are right but I think you are wrong. Western governments and corporations have learned well the techniques of mass control of the populace through mass media propaganda. Debt and greed has made us a nation of sheep easily manipulated.
 
Mussolini's "Gold for the Fatherland" initiative

Following quote is from Wikipedia..but well documented in history books

"Gold for the Fatherland" initiative, by encouraging the public to voluntarily donate gold jewellery such as necklaces and wedding rings to government officials in exchange for steel wristbands bearing the words "Gold for the Fatherland". Even Rachele Mussolini donated her own wedding ring. The collected gold was then melted down and turned into gold bars, which were then distributed to the national banks.
 
First of all, was the OP google-translated from another language? It was so hard to read with all the grammatical errors.

Do you seriously think that the government will go door-to-door on to every house, demanding for all the PM? And what if they show up and you just say "I don't have it"? The time and resources spent to maybe even get your personal holdings is just not probable. They're not going to search every crevice of every house in the nation just for a chance to obtain PM. This also definitely wouldn't look good for politics.
 
iluvbeanz said:
Do you seriously think that the government will go door-to-door on to every house, demanding for all the PM? And what if they show up and you just say "I don't have it"? The time and resources spent to maybe even get your personal holdings is just not probable. They're not going to search every crevice of every house in the nation just for a chance to obtain PM. This also definitely wouldn't look good for politics.

x2. not going to happen. why expend so many resources trying to obtain an unknown amount of PM from unknown locations when it's unknown if it's even still there?
it's much easier to take control of the source- mines. atleast they know what's there and where it is.

"stolen years ago". when they can't find it i guess they'll have to believe you.
 
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