Syria and the price of PMs

Photonaware said:
Syria has blatantly crossed the red line
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Are you serious! Why on earth would Assad attack his heartland of support. Doing so would be sheer madness. Remember nearly 2 years of this conflict had passed with out a chemical weapon in sight with only a minority of merikan support for a merikan led intervention. Then a report rocks up saying that support for an intervention shifts into the majority if chemical weapons are found to be in use. Suddenly we see chemical weapons in use. Bit of a coincidence don't you think?
 
Photonaware said:
Iran has publicly declared it will react if the West attacks Syria and it would be ineffective for Iran to send missiles into the Mediterranean threating USA or UK ships so their best option to create maximum impact is to attack Israel. After all they hate each other. That gives Israel the green light to flatten all Iranian nuclear sites, which they are itching to do. An attack on Israel will essentially be an attack on the USA so who knows what would hapen next.
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Don't forget that both Russia and China have a compact with Iran. I am not sure if there is a military component to this though, however it would not surprise me.

Surprisingly, or not surprisingly, I was speaking to an Iranian a few months ago who advised that despite the MSM, Iranians do not hate Israel.
 
Photonaware said:
Thread has missed the point.
If the West ( USA, France, UK etc. ) launches cruise missiles into Syria in the next few days, this in theory will trigger a response from allies of Syria but especially Iran.
Chemical weapons inspectors are on site today but political leaders have probably already decided action ahead of the inspectors report. Syria has blatantly crossed the red line and the rest of the world has to respond or loose credibility so a punitive strike is inevitable. Iran has publicly declared it will react if the West attacks Syria and it would be ineffective for Iran to send missiles into the Mediterranean threating USA or UK ships so their best option to create maximum impact is to attack Israel. After all they hate each other. That gives Israel the green light to flatten all Iranian nuclear sites, which they are itching to do. An attack on Israel will essentially be an attack on the USA so who knows what would hapen next. The amount of PMs in missiles is missing the point completely. If a war breaks out the world siezes dollars or ditches dollars and gold etc becomes the store of wealth so one would assume substantial price increases on the horizon along with oil.
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This ^^

Furthermore, the US economy is pooched, good and proper. The best possible outcome for their economy is another war (of course, funded by the printing presses and exported inflation).

This will provide the "excuse" the Fed needs to delay or cancel any tapering of QE - it will instead signal the need for more QE (or money printing), which will keep things like the Stock Market bouncing along its merry way.

All of this, of course, can be rewritten in two simple words: Can kicking.
 
Just watched some Aljezeera to see what the Sunnis are saying/reporting. Lots of speculation that a cruise missile strike such as regularly occurred in Bill Clinton's time in the sun will occur. Operation Desert Fox was mentioned, that struck Saddam's Iraq for 4 days. I recall it was also a tactic used vs al'qaeda in Sudan (Operation Infinite Reach)and Afghanistan in the late 90s. One of the Sudanese targets was a pharmaceutical factory. Recorded by one clever dick online as:

'Bill Clinton Bombs an Aspirin Factory' - http://www.mega.nu/ampp/khartoumbomb.html

We can expect similar errors. The air strike on the underground tank base in Baghdad during Operation Desert Storm, viewed by satellite, satellite not picking up the civilians using it as a bomb shelter and all died, demonstrates that air power without ground presence/intelligence can be impressive but counterproductive. The strategic doctrine that came out of all the late 1990s is that cruise missile strikes solve nothing, and diplomatically make things worse.

So America has a risk averse Democratic president again, and will make the same mistakes again. Doesn't anyone learn.
 
100 000+ killed, millions left their homes. This conflict was out of "control" many weeks/months ago. Some people didn't forget what happened in Srebrenica (Bosnia). Few thousand people killed in 9/11 and half of the world follow US in wars. Several thousand killed in Syria and politicians are only calculating their benefits.
Every time UN tried to stop some conflict it only get worse. Bosnia, Syria first time, Rwanda, etc.
Many countries are playing their roles in this conflict.
The new cold war started long ago, but it's not in Europe any more. And it's not so cold either.
The fall of Iraq only made Iran stronger. And much Arabic countries are afraid of strong Iran, not only Israel. Iran is one of the oldest countries in the world. When most of the today's UN diplomats were in "pre"semen there was Persian Empire.
Attacking Syria or not, this conflict went out of control long time ago. It radicalised when many militias joined the rebels.
It's also question about religion, not only interest of bigger states.
 
Afghanistan was about drugs, the Middle East is about oil. The takfiri Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra ,FSA, ISIS are the puppets fully backed by the US, Israel, UK, French governments and the list goes on! Syria is under attack from the biggest takfiri insurgency ever and I feel for the people of Syria as there country has been destroyed with tens of thousands killed and its going to get allot worse! There is no way the SAA attacked there own citizens with chemical weapons, it's all bull shit just like the WMD's in Iraq! They got to have a bullshit story for the sheeple so they can attack, makes me sick!!
 
Asad's father had bloody hands, don't forget this.

The mother of all conflicts there is Palestinian/Israel conflict.

And "West's" double standard policy. Voting is only "democratic" when party that is puppet of West is elected. Look at Egypt. Their army cheated "rebels" twice. With silent support of West...
 
Every time Western countries (politicians) are in trouble they seek new war(s) to change people's attention from home problems to global. France president talked some crap before elections how France won't interfere and when his ratings fall to the ground he invaded Mali.

Clinton did the same, bombarding Serbia when advisers told him that would increase his popularity.

Not to mention all (conspiracy theories) about Russian wars in their southern republic/neighbour countries...
 
Oh people, watch the news and buy gold before it's too late. Pretty sure that the pm prices will rise in the next days since I'm sure that there will something happen. The U.S. and the U.K will intervene, no matter what the UN say.
 
Stark said:
Asad's father had bloody hands, don't forget this.

The mother of all conflicts there is Palestinian/Israel conflict.

And "West's" double standard policy. Voting is only "democratic" when party that is puppet of West is elected. Look at Egypt. Their army cheated "rebels" twice. With silent support of West...
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Well think what you like but the Army deposed the President and religious political party that the US is supporting.
 
AngloSaxon said:
Stark said:
Asad's father had bloody hands, don't forget this.

The mother of all conflicts there is Palestinian/Israel conflict.

And "West's" double standard policy. Voting is only "democratic" when party that is puppet of West is elected. Look at Egypt. Their army cheated "rebels" twice. With silent support of West...
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Well think what you like but the Army deposed the President and religious political party that the US is supporting.
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I think you are wrong. :) I agree with one of our journalists that Egyptian army tricked Egyptians (at least) 2 times. Is being heavily supported by US and with some other countries as well. They waited aside so police and regime's brutes kicked the shit out of protesters. Then after some time it looked like the army cease the violence and made Mubarak resign. However. Elections were planned too fast. It was clear that Religious party would win (who had strong support among people because of its humanitarian actions for many years).But....
Egypt is/was in huge economic problems. Generals also anticipated that party who waited so long will jump to "throne" like mad dog. New president started to remind more and more of old one, started proposing laws with would turn Egypt in more "religious oriented" Arab country.

New president resigned some of old Mubarak's generals, Mubarak's right hand died (I think, he "replaced"Mubarak until elections time). But it was too late. Egyptian army is "country in country". It has huge influence. People went to street again. This time against new president and his religious laws and stuff. The army openly supported protesters, arrested many member of Muslim Brotherhood, killed many.

It's now back again in full power, although it actually never fully resigned. Mubarak will maybe even walk free, without any charges for (war) crimes committed in past.

Anyway Washington Post articles about who used nerve gas (in May) is interesting:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/6/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-not-assads-regi/
 
"It's already too late to buy gold since 2008"


Not if you have cash and the currency falls over. Not if you have stocks and we have a rout. Not if we are entering stage 3 of the biggest bull market of gold in history. Not if we haven't entered the manic end of a bull market.

not if you like shiny yellow heavy metal


have a great day

Gazza
 
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