Sprott phased out of investment decisions and now chief cheerleader

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It is a sad day to see this. As Andy Hoffman says don't play in their game. They have unlimited ammunition and you will be destroyed...


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Gold Drop Is Blow to Prominent Hedge-Fund Manager Sprott
By
Rob Copeland
Dec. 11, 2013 7:29 p.m. ET

One of the world's biggest gold bugs is getting crushed by the metal's steep fall.

The flagship fund of prominent Canadian hedge-fund manager Eric Sprott has dropped more than 50% this year in what will likely be the third consecutive year of double-digit percentage losses, according to documents sent to investors.

Eric Sprott says government data understate precious-metals demand. Bloomberg News

Redemptions and weak performance have pushed down hedge-fund assets managed by Mr. Sprott to about $350 million from nearly $3 billion in 2008.

The declines are largely due to the conviction of Mr. Sprottfor the most part unshakenthat gold and other precious metals will rise in the long term.

Gold has dropped 25% over the past year and is on track for its first annual decline after 12 years of gains. It settled Wednesday at $1,257 a troy ounce. Silver, another favorite of Mr. Sprott's, is down 33% and settled Wednesday at $20.36 an ounce.

The poor results come with a personal cost: Mr. Sprott's investment company, Sprott Inc., which he founded in 1981, said last month that it is phasing him out of investment decisions.

By the end of next year, Mr. Sprottwho early in his career was a programmer for Merrill Lynchwill no longer directly make the firm's investment decisions, though he will remain chairman.

Sprott Chief Executive Officer Peter Grosskopf said that Mr. Sprott would also be handling "chief cheerleader duties."

Already last year, the firm added co-chief investment officers to all of Mr. Sprott's funds, including a Canadian equity mutual fund that lost 40% during the past year.

"Nobody here likes me to use that word 'turnaround' but let's face it: That's what we're doing," Mr. Grosskopf said.

The company declined to make Mr. Sprott, 69 years old, available for comment.

The firm's focus will remain precious metals, but it aims to better manage its risk, Mr. Grosskopf said.

Sprott's mutual-fund, private-equity and wealth-management arms now collectively manage about $7 billion, down from $10 billion last fall. The vast majority of that decline was from redemptions and position markdowns in the funds and physical-gold trusts.

Many precious-metal bulls have been hurt this year as low inflation and rising financial markets reduced demand for havens. Few have been as concentrated in gold as Mr. Sprott or touted it with such zeal.

In interviews and other commentaries, Mr. Sprott, who is somewhat active in libertarian causes, has said that he believes government statistics understate demand from emerging markets and obfuscate true levels of supply.

Mr. Grosskopf said the firm's investors were fully aware of Mr. Sprott's thinking. "We have always been transparent about what we're doing and what we expect the results to be," Mr. Grosskopf said. "Everybody knew what the risks were."

The HFRX Macro: Commodity-Metals Index, which tracks hedge-fund managers with at least 50% exposure to metals, is down 28% so far this year.

Mr. Sprott's losses exceed that and other precious-metals benchmarks, thanks in part to heavy exposure to volatile mining stocks and short exposure to international equities that have climbed this year, investor documents indicate.

Among high-profile peers, only John Paulson's PFR Gold fund, down 63% for the year through the end of October, according to an investor update, has come close to Sprott's losses on a percentage basis. Mr. Paulson's losses, however, are much smaller in dollar terms.

Other big investors who were previously bullish on gold have been exiting. Daniel Loeb's Third Point LLC sold out of its long-held gold position in the second quarter, he told investors in a letter. As a whole, hedge funds are the least bullish on gold since 2007 and the most negative on silver since data began being collected in 2006, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission said this week.

Unlike Mr. Paulson and many other hedge-fund managers, Mr. Sprott also has a public company to worry about. Shares of Sprott Inc. are down 38% this year on the Toronto Stock Exchange and closed Wednesday at C$2.52. Mr. Sprott's personal one-third stake has shed more than $100 million in value in 2013.

About half of the money left in the firm's main hedge funds comes from Mr. Sprott and his employees, a spokesman said.

CIBC World Markets analyst Paul Holden rates the company a sector underperformer. "Their reputation has really been based on the precious-metals front, and it's a difficult transition," Mr. Holden said.

Some of Sprott's earliest investors may still be in the black. Since its start, the flagship hedge fund has an annualized 5.8% return. The firm protected itself in the hedge-fund swoon of 2008 with short bets against financial firms, losing only 4.4%, and for 2010 reported its best year ever, rising 41.2% as precious metals shot up.

That proved to be the fund's high water mark. An investor who met with the fund that year said Sprott was increasingly bearish on the global economy and continued to short global financial stocks, a leftover tactic from the crisis. In interviews, Mr. Sprott said he expected silver to hit $100 an ounce. Silver never reached even half that mark.

Yet, as of his latest investor letter, Mr. Sprott was still flagging potential sparks for precious metals, like a new Federal Reserve chairman and European elections. His firm continues to try new ways to repackage its trademark. In September, it started trading a new hedge fund for Chinese investors in a joint venture with Zijin Mining Group Ltd. Its main investment focus: gold.

Write to Rob Copeland at [email protected]
 
It is a sad day to see this. As Andy Hoffman says don't play in their game. They have unlimited ammunition and you will be destroyed...
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The company declined to make Mr. Sprott, 69 years old, available for comment.

The firm's focus will remain precious metals, but it aims to better manage its risk, Mr. Grosskopf said.
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Many precious-metal bulls have been hurt this year as low inflation and rising financial markets reduced demand for havens. Few have been as concentrated in gold as Mr. Sprott or touted it with such zeal.

In interviews and other commentaries, Mr. Sprott, who is somewhat active in libertarian causes, has said that he believes government statistics understate demand from emerging markets and obfuscate true levels of supply.
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Mr. Sprott's losses exceed that and other precious-metals benchmarks, thanks in part to heavy exposure to volatile mining stocks and short exposure to international equities that have climbed this year, investor documents indicate.
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Yet, as of his latest investor letter, Mr. Sprott was still flagging potential sparks for precious metals, like a new Federal Reserve chairman and European elections. His firm continues to try new ways to repackage its trademark. In September, it started trading a new hedge fund for Chinese investors in a joint venture with Zijin Mining Group Ltd. Its main investment focus: gold.

Trading a gut feeling or hunch, instead of a market and it's prices is totally unprofessional and negligent.
To tout and flog securities that carry proclaimed inevitable and certain profit is fraudulent. It is known as a boiler room.
To openly admit he is continuing this strategy under new guises boarders on criminal.
If Sprott was a Wall St banker or broker, the members here would be screaming for a public hanging and lynching.
Instead, it is humbly explained away as being collateral damage to "their game".
This article should maybe be moved to JOTD.
 
Au contraire, he's put his manifesto out there, there is no illegal activity. He is catering to a specific market and I believe he will be proven right.
 
sammysilver said:
Au contraire, he's put his manifesto out there, there is no illegal activity. He is catering to a specific market ....
The same could be said for Bernake..... :lol:
 
It is a lesson in becoming fixated on a particular market and ignoring the basic fact that a market is a market and as such they will move through cycles regardless of whether or not we accept it or want it.
Yes, gold will shine again in time but a 50% wipeout in price is going to equate to a around 90% wipeout in gold mining stock price...........there is a time to take profits and a time to invest........no market, including gold moves in a straight line and the fact that profits weren't booked when gold was a lot higher simply shows that these so called experts are no different to you and I...........in fact some silver stackers have proved to be more competent investors than a lot of the pros.........well done to all of you that outperformed Sprott.............perhaps he could pay you for your advice.
 
Wow, the internal politics within the Sprott org must have been intense to end up with the CEO disparaginly calling the founder of the org "chief cheerleader"
 
This is a HACK JOB of an article set out to DAMAGE Sprott's following and voice.

No mention of his past decade. No mention of how he built these companies, how he built is own wealth, etc.????? They only looked at the past 3 years?

Sure he has a FOCUS on the metals and Metals are down. So it's no shock those sole focused funds are down. To make it sound like those funds should have been buying stocks in the DOW is foolish.

Articles like these do not make the WSJ for no reason. Sprott must be hitting the nail on the head of something big coming down the road.
 
During the times in 2008 that the silver price was $10, the same could have been said.
And a decade ago, with silvers price being the same as another decade earlier, the same could have been said.
Bad bad bad investment.
Hum.
 
tolly_67 said:
Yes this is true, what if you invested with him 2 3/4 years ago?
What if next year the pm prices get driven to the ones we saw last year?
Just another 'what if'.
Some years ago some people sold stocks in the crisis highdays.
What if they wouldn't have sold, and waited to sell now, at the record high stock levels?
Another 'what if'.
 
Eruaran said:
I think there's more going on here...

Sprott went all in and lost $3 billion and that's ok his mutual fund still has $ 7 billion left (50% other peoples money), so what can you see, what do you think is happen Sherlock....
 
Capitulation of the biggest 'bulls'/'bears' is usually a sign that we're close(r) to a turning point in the markets.

If Sprott's fund is essentially saying "we're getting out of PMs" then IMO we're getting closer to a floor in prices.
 
It's a hedge fund ffs

If investors want market returns they should buy an index fund

Hedge funds are supposed to take paths out of the mainstream aren't they ?

Or has the term hedge fund been warped into just another type of managed fund now ?
 
This biased piece of excrement is nothing but a HIT PIECE on Sprott.

Sprott turned to gold in 2000 when the price was nowhere near where it is now.

He also built that company from scratch.

Do you remember Warren Buffett in the late 90s getting smacked for not investing in what turned out to be one of the biggest bubbles of all time?

Sprott is one of the sharpest minds in the business. He knows the turnaround is coming, and when it does, WATCH OUT!

Invest in your 2bitcons if you must. Slander gold and silver at your peril.

The US is Bankrupt: FACT. The European Union with very few exceptions is Bankrupt: FACT.

Once people lose complete and utter faith in those counterfeited bits of confetti; once the paper aristocracy is no more, one of the only games in town, if not the only game, will be gold and silver. China know it, most of the intelligentsia know it, and the US will do everything in its power to fight it, even if that means going to WAR.

Every "dog" however, ultimately has its day.

Believe that Bloomberg and Government Sucks lipstick on a pig propaganda all day long.

The Cassandras will be proven correct, including Eric Sprott.

"Then you will know the truth, and the truth shall set you free."
 
So does he get re-instated as CEO of all financial decisions and removed from Chief Cheerleader when the metals go parabolic?
 
If he does it once, he will do it again....
He couldn't see the writing on the wall that a long, drawn out correction was about to occur.....just like gold in the mid 70's
How will he see the writing in golds final blow-off in years to come?
If he gets the big one wrong then those who follow him will be looking at massive losses...
He has become blinded by his own beliefs. Gold is a market like any other and it is not going to save our lives, or our economy, or the worlds economy....
 
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