So no one can predict the market?

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lshallperish

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People say no one can predict the market blahblah.. but people still have the power to change the market in there favor? silver manipulation, how can this still exist?? Why isn't anyone trying to stop this.. it pisses me off that a group of idiot's could just decide what price silver or what ever should be.. it's not even about supply and demand anymore... It's pathetic, silver is used more then gold yet here we are with 22 dollar silver.. it should be at least a couple of 100 dollars.. For thousands of year's silver was 2nd in charge and now it's basically worthless.

Have we become so stupid in this day and age and rely on fiat so much that we refuse to buy silver or gold? I would love to have the old traditions of the roman empire back..

I just want fiat to go away for ever.. I want to have slaves guarding my treasure.. I want to have a bag hanging from my waist with gold or silver to go shopping..

Such a sad world we live in.. nothing is better.. people are even more stupid then hundreds and thousands years before us
 
Would you pay $200 for an ounce of silver?
You have to understand that for most it is no more a store of wealth than an oz of copper, generally speaking the people on this forum are weirdos spending all their money on pieces of metal instead of cars/boats/tvs lol.
 
col0016 said:
Would you pay $200 for an ounce of silver?
You have to understand that for most it is no more a store of wealth than an oz of copper, generally speaking the people on this forum are weirdos spending all their money on pieces of metal instead of cars/boats/tvs lol.
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I don't think it's quite the case that they are stupid. They just want a store of wealth that just may (what a silly belief) reward them in the near future for nothing more than their diligence.

Cars, boats & TVs lol......Perhaps old rarer car models if you can find good ones but thats certainly not for the average investor. Certainly not smart to blow your earnings just updating the car. New cars devalue quicker than it takes to save for a trip up the coast. P

Also, silver is a little more expensive than copper per oz wouldnt you say? So I hardly see the similarities as a store of wealth? They both are consumed in trade yes but that's about it.
 
lshallperish said:
It's pathetic, silver is used more then gold yet here we are with 22 dollar silver..
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Copper is also used more than gold. So is water, salt, and cotton. I don't see people crying that these things are too cheap.
 
lshallperish said:
Why isn't anyone trying to stop this.. it pisses me off that a group of idiot's could just decide what price silver or what ever should be.
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You make it sound really easy. I assure you it's more involved than Santa Clause sitting there and turning the silver price knob.
 
lshallperish said:
...I would love to have the old traditions of the roman empire back..

I just want fiat to go away for ever.. I want to have slaves guarding my treasure.. I want to have a bag hanging from my waist with gold or silver to go shopping..

Such a sad world we live in.. nothing is better.. people are even more stupid then hundreds and thousands years before us
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Do you play D&D?
 
People say no one can predict the market blahblah.. but people still have the power to change the market in there favor?
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Who are these people you speak of exactly?
silver manipulation, how can this still exist?? Why isn't anyone trying to stop this.. it pisses me off that a group of idiot's could just decide what price silver or what ever should be.. it's not even about supply and demand anymore...
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What's it about then? You're telling the story here and I'm eager to learn something new from you.
It's pathetic, silver is used more then gold yet here we are with 22 dollar silver.. it should be at least a couple of 100 dollars.. For thousands of year's silver was 2nd in charge and now it's basically worthless.
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It's more useful than it used to be, that's exactly why the price has gone down and why history just that, history.
1. Silver is no longer a monetary metal
2. technology has transformed Silvers use and thus we have more mines producing more silver. It is not a rare element.
Have we become so stupid in this day and age and rely on fiat so much that we refuse to buy silver or gold? I would love to have the old traditions of the roman empire back..
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Are you a historian? I'd take our modern society over Roman traditions any day.
Fiat is the natural evolution of currency which works well in conjunction with our technology driven world. A gold standard would not work today, based on your post there's no point in explaining why.
I just want fiat to go away for ever.. I want to have slaves guarding my treasure..
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err.. you want slaves? WTF?
 
GOLDPIRATE said:
col0016 said:
Would you pay $200 for an ounce of silver?
You have to understand that for most it is no more a store of wealth than an oz of copper, generally speaking the people on this forum are weirdos spending all their money on pieces of metal instead of cars/boats/tvs lol.
Click to expand...

I don't think it's quite the case that they are stupid. They just want a store of wealth that just may (what a silly belief) reward them in the near future for nothing more than their diligence.

Cars, boats & TVs lol......Perhaps old rarer car models if you can find good ones but thats certainly not for the average investor. Certainly not smart to blow your earnings just updating the car. New cars devalue quicker than it takes to save for a trip up the coast. P

Also, silver is a little more expensive than copper per oz wouldnt you say? So I hardly see the similarities as a store of wealth? They both are consumed in trade yes but that's about it.
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I dont know about that.. if you bought gold 20 year's ago you would of made a nice amount.
 
Cheepo said:
lshallperish said:
It's pathetic, silver is used more then gold yet here we are with 22 dollar silver..
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Copper is also used more than gold. So is water, salt, and cotton. I don't see people crying that these things are too cheap.
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Maybe because those things dont fit in a tennis court 30 ft in height and 30 ft in length..
 
Aureus said:
People say no one can predict the market blahblah.. but people still have the power to change the market in there favor?
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Who are these people you speak of exactly?
silver manipulation, how can this still exist?? Why isn't anyone trying to stop this.. it pisses me off that a group of idiot's could just decide what price silver or what ever should be.. it's not even about supply and demand anymore...
Click to expand...
What's it about then? You're telling the story here and I'm eager to learn something new from you.
It's pathetic, silver is used more then gold yet here we are with 22 dollar silver.. it should be at least a couple of 100 dollars.. For thousands of year's silver was 2nd in charge and now it's basically worthless.
Click to expand...

It's more useful than it used to be, that's exactly why the price has gone down and why history just that, history.
1. Silver is no longer a monetary metal
2. technology has transformed Silvers use and thus we have more mines producing more silver. It is not a rare element.
Have we become so stupid in this day and age and rely on fiat so much that we refuse to buy silver or gold? I would love to have the old traditions of the roman empire back..
Click to expand...
Are you a historian? I'd take our modern society over Roman traditions any day.
Fiat is the natural evolution of currency which works well in conjunction with our technology driven world. A gold standard would not work today, based on your post there's no point in explaining why.
I just want fiat to go away for ever.. I want to have slaves guarding my treasure..
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err.. you want slaves? WTF?
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I was being sarcastic with the slaves part lool
 
lshallperish said:
Have we become so stupid in this day and age and rely on fiat so much that we refuse to buy silver or gold? I would love to have the old traditions of the roman empire back..

I just want fiat to go away for ever.. I want to have slaves guarding my treasure.. I want to have a bag hanging from my waist with gold or silver to go shopping..

Such a sad world we live in.. nothing is better.. people are even more stupid then hundreds and thousands years before us
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Everyone wants their investment to come good.
But when it doesn't, not everyone blames the stupidity of the world population.

So goes the ol' quote:
"If you run into an idiot in the morning, you ran into an idiot. If you run into idiots all day, you're the idiot."
 
A little education to help you on your way as it appears you are hopelessly lost in misinformation.
1. There is nothing wrong with fiat currency......if controlled properly.
2. Manipulation is a short term thing and does not affect the overall trend. Stop listening to the conspiracy group.
3. If the market is doing what you think it shouldn't then you are the one who is wrong. Try learn why you are wrong or you will lose a lot of money.
 
SilverPete said:
spannermonkey said:
:rolleyes:
Another speculator pissed of because he hasn't made $ since he got in :rolleyes:
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Sound's more like the impotent rage of a 14 year old. Remember when he was slagging off KJC because he didn't understand basic math?

http://forums.silverstackers.com/topic-51955-kjc-page-1.html

From the date of that thread, he only got in to silver 2 months ago.
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KJC is a total NEWB trap, i think youd have to be real newb or young and really green to the hobby to not find a better source
 
lshallperish said:
GOLDPIRATE said:
col0016 said:
Would you pay $200 for an ounce of silver?
You have to understand that for most it is no more a store of wealth than an oz of copper, generally speaking the people on this forum are weirdos spending all their money on pieces of metal instead of cars/boats/tvs lol.
Click to expand...

I don't think it's quite the case that they are stupid. They just want a store of wealth that just may (what a silly belief) reward them in the near future for nothing more than their diligence.

Cars, boats & TVs lol......Perhaps old rarer car models if you can find good ones but thats certainly not for the average investor. Certainly not smart to blow your earnings just updating the car. New cars devalue quicker than it takes to save for a trip up the coast. P

Also, silver is a little more expensive than copper per oz wouldnt you say? So I hardly see the similarities as a store of wealth? They both are consumed in trade yes but that's about it.
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I dont know about that.. if you bought gold 20 year's ago you would of made a nice amount.
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I was quoting/answering col0016! I was stating there is a difference with copper & silver where storing wealth is concerned. Particularly physical wealth. Wasn't having a go @ silver stacking in any way shape or form.....
 
lshallperish said:
GOLDPIRATE said:
col0016 said:
Would you pay $200 for an ounce of silver?
You have to understand that for most it is no more a store of wealth than an oz of copper, generally speaking the people on this forum are weirdos spending all their money on pieces of metal instead of cars/boats/tvs lol.
Click to expand...

I don't think it's quite the case that they are stupid. They just want a store of wealth that just may (what a silly belief) reward them in the near future for nothing more than their diligence.

Cars, boats & TVs lol......Perhaps old rarer car models if you can find good ones but thats certainly not for the average investor. Certainly not smart to blow your earnings just updating the car. New cars devalue quicker than it takes to save for a trip up the coast. P

Also, silver is a little more expensive than copper per oz wouldnt you say? So I hardly see the similarities as a store of wealth? They both are consumed in trade yes but that's about it.
Click to expand...


I dont know about that.. if you bought gold 20 year's ago you would of made a nice amount.
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No.
This is false.

If you had bought most other investments rather than gold (share index funds/ HOUSES)... (Index funds increase by ~8-12% each year over a long term (I'd say 20-24 years is a long term), yielding a minimum (8%) $2 448 of for the initial $386 amount.

Even with a LOW 5% return on your term deposit with the price of gold in 1990 (386$/ounce)
Your money would be worth $1245 already. Gold is $1392...

I'd hardly consider that a "nice amount" over the course of 20 years with the risk associated.

Of course there are other reasons for silver stacking such as increasing the ability to save, reducing impulsive purchases on junk such as weekly alcohol and clubbing and would prefer to buy PMs. (For myself) Also Shiny!
 
wrcmad said:
lshallperish said:
Have we become so stupid in this day and age and rely on fiat so much that we refuse to buy silver or gold? I would love to have the old traditions of the roman empire back..

I just want fiat to go away for ever.. I want to have slaves guarding my treasure.. I want to have a bag hanging from my waist with gold or silver to go shopping..

Such a sad world we live in.. nothing is better.. people are even more stupid then hundreds and thousands years before us
Click to expand...

Everyone wants their investment to come good.
But when it doesn't, not everyone blames the stupidity of the world population.

So goes the ol' quote:
"If you run into an idiot in the morning, you ran into an idiot. If you run into idiots all day, you're the idiot."
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Do you really think in my generation people know what investing means? I am in my early 20s and I should be going out and partying, maxing my credit card for that new phone and car.. yet I here I am.. the world has become worse.
This has nothing to do with silver that statement I made, it's about people not knowing what is going on with politics and corruption.
I mean what kind of dumbass invests in JP Morgan? You have mid age people investing in that company for nothing.
 
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