
I feel somewhat similar, but I think such speculation is part and parcel of precious metals, I prefer to go down the economics and stats side of precious metals, rather than going down the numismatic coinsIs there any evidence that the gold to silver ratio is relevant to anything? My impression was that it's irrelevant. I certainly wouldn't buy silver based on arbitrary statistics.
Is there any evidence that the gold to silver ratio is relevant to anything?
What do you think will happen in the relative short term (excluding the silver shortage at the moment, like say this hypothetically December last year) about the ratio? Will silver surge, or gold drop? Potentially a combo of both?It is absolutely relevant when the natural ratio is 17:1 and the mining ratio is 9:1.
Then factor in global mine supply vs global demand and the decade of annual deficits.
The gold to silver ratio has historic and fundamental relevance, but shouldn't be used to determine fair value for each metal. Mining costs, supply and demand fundamentals and the current economic climate are the main areas I focus my attention.
One day the ratio has to come down somewhere near its natural or mining ratio. That could be 3 years or 30 years from now.
IMO - If the trend continues for supply and demand, we could see the ratio narrow significantly over the next decade due to simple mathematics. Our planet has a lot of silver - but very few large deposits which are economical to mine at these price levels (that aren't already being mined). most deposits aren't significant enough to sustain us at current levels of Demand for any significant amount of time. All the major deposits are already being mined and many are set to deplete by 2030.
Of course, a population reduction on a biblical scale would be a game changer.
Of course, a population reduction on a biblical scale would be a game changer.
But investing in mutual funds or getting tax concession for putting more money in your super isn't funThere's no such thing as a "natural" gold to silver ratio, certainly not 17:1. You guys are risking severe losses basing your investments on kooky theories. There's normally evidence behind investment metrics and indicators.
Agree.Is there any evidence that the gold to silver ratio is relevant to anything? My impression was that it's irrelevant. I certainly wouldn't buy silver based on arbitrary statistics.
There's no such thing as a "natural" gold to silver ratio, certainly not 17:1
I actually rate this population reduce as the most likely scenario for the future.
I think what he meant to say was that the "natural" ratio has no bearing on the price ratio... and nor should it.There's no such thing as a "natural" gold to silver ratio, certainly not 17:1
How is there no such thing?
There is a calculated ratio of gold and silver in the earth's crust. This is often referred to as the "natural ratio".
Are you seriously denying there is a ratio of gold and silver in the earth's crust? You're most welcome to... but you are far from convincing.
If you're attempting to dispute the natural ratio - explain why - instead of dismissing the natural ratio as a kook theory.
^^ This has already happened to many. Just do a search of gold-silver ratio trading and advice on this forum to see that opportunity-costs (effective losses) for some members are in the vicinity of 50% in the last 24 months alone.You guys are risking severe losses basing your investments on kooky theories.
What do you think will happen in the relative short term (excluding the silver shortage at the moment, like say this hypothetically December last year) about the ratio? Will silver surge, or gold drop? Potentially a combo of both?
I am pretty well versed about the economics and theory behind precious metal prices, but I am genuinely interested in your opinion
Honestly, I have no idea. The silver market is tiny and anything could happen in 1 year.
I think we've seen a lot of institutional $$$ go into gold as well as wealthy investors and the switched on varieties of main street.
I think there are many things to consider for Silver.
The market is approx $15 Billion USD annually, not a lot of currency can go into silver investment. Approx $8 Billion of that goes to industry and only around 20% (approx 200-250 million ounces or $3 billion) goes to investment (Bullion), generally speaking.
The increase in demand for Silver Bullion in the recent months has exceeded the markets capacity to supply, creating a bottleneck.
Which raises the question: What is the capacity to supply investment grade Bullion to the market annually on a global scale?
It may be less than 500 million ounces, or approx 50% of the annual supply.
We are already seeing a divergence from the spot price for physical. I think if demand for physical continues, we could see this divergence expand to new levels. The paper Gold to Silver ratio can increase while the physical market ratios decrease. I think this is likely to happen for a while longer and to new extremes. I think this is just the first wave of frantic buying and the race to safe haven assets.
It's hard to look ahead with clarity in the short term, especially in this environment. I've been taking an observer's stance and just watch everything unfold before me. I'm just as curious to know what will happen over the next 12 months and can only speculate as to what that may be.
To Da MOON!!
There's no such thing as a "natural" gold to silver ratio, certainly not 17:1. You guys are risking severe losses basing your investments on kooky theories. There's normally evidence behind investment metrics and indicators.