Silver will peak at $147 / ozt AUD

that is why I sold the bulk of my stuff many years ago only keeping a token few moved to BTC / shares and dont regret it

I do have 1 x 10oz bar left I missed in the clear out but I mostly have the SGB coins now left and a couple of coloured 1 oz perth mint coins and sound round fifties so not a lot but am still invested and am a PM holder
 
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Court Jester said:
lol jealous of what sub standard returns vs almost any thing else? lLOL
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Why would someone buy gold for returns? There are etfs and cryptos, real estate, flipping cars, Ebay and lots of things that can provide returns if thats what your after.

I cant tell if your a newb that bought gold for returns or just a sour person with too many regrets in life.
 
JohnnyBravo300 said:
Why would someone buy gold for returns? There are etfs and cryptos, real estate, flipping cars, Ebay and lots of things that can provide returns if thats what your after.

I cant tell if your a newb that bought gold for returns or just a sour person with too many regrets in life.
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people do and I would bet people lining up for hours at the bullion shops today will be thinking that as well
 
I have no complaints about how my precious metal holdings have done over the past decade. They are not my main investments but even compared to my other investments, they still did well.

Gold accounts for about 5% of my personal investing and silver for another 5% or so, Crypto at 0.2%, Cash at 2% and Real Estate the other 85% or so.

In My SMSF Gold is about 10%, silver 7%, Crypto 0%, Cash at 5% and the rest in Real Estate.

I started putting silver in the SMSF back in 2014, I just asked ChatGPT how it was doing and the response was Annualized return: ≈ 11.7% per year. I am happy enough with that, the returns on my cash and rental returns are not better than that and the effort and regulations surrounding residential rentals make silver a winner in both returns and ease of use. I didn't have to take out loans to buy the silver, there are no ongoing costs associated with owning it and I have paid no tax on it.

Sure, maybe stocks and shares would have been better if you picked the right ones at the right time but that seems to require a lot more risk and research than holding precious metals.

I don't mind going sideways at +11.7% per year. Of course, if the price crashes down that annualised return is going to take a bashing.
 
Jislizard said:
I don't mind going sideways at +11.7% per year. Of course, if the price crashes down that annualised return is going to take a bashing.
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if you exclude the last 12 months what was the annualized return on the silver -- I would bet it is no where near 11%

so for most of that time it went no where did nothing.
 
According to ChatGPT: Your silver investment experienced an annualized return of approximately 5.25% from October 2014 to October 2023.

Around the same as rental returns and term deposits.
 
Jislizard said:
According to ChatGPT: Your silver investment experienced an annualized return of approximately 5.25% from October 2014 to October 2023.

Around the same as rental returns and term deposits.
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and less than inflation in some of those years so you in real terms went backwards
 
I don't like chat gpt it often gets things very wrong ( and this is a prime example here as I just tried this query myself and dont like how it got the numbers) but anyway using the same query so its apples to apples

Apple is a 26% annual return over the same period
Tesla is 37%
Nvidia is 78%
Amazon 32%
Microsoft 27%

Bitcoin 73%
 
Yes, the annualised income adjusted for inflation from 2014 to date is only 8.45% per year.

From October 2014 to October 2023, the silver investment increased from $20.96 to $33.06 per troy ounce, representing a nominal annualized return of 5.25% per year and an inflation-adjusted (real) annualized return of 2.08% per year.

So not quite backwards, but not as forwards as I would like, good job I didn't sell any 2 years ago.
 
Jislizard said:
Yes, the annualised income adjusted for inflation from 2014 to date is only 8.45% per year.

From October 2014 to October 2023, the silver investment increased from $20.96 to $33.06 per troy ounce, representing a nominal annualized return of 5.25% per year and an inflation-adjusted (real) annualized return of 2.08% per year.

So not quite backwards, but not as forwards as I would like, good job I didn't sell any 2 years ago.
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sorry I should have qualified -- in those years yes you did not go backwards over the entire time

and yes I will admit silver has done well over the last 12months as it is just playing catch up to everything but it wont last
 
Yes, by multiple factors, but bitcoin seemed a lot riskier back then. I will be putting some of the SMSF cash into crypto and hope it doesn't dissapear.
 
Jislizard said:
Yes, by multiple factors, but bitcoin seemed a lot riskier back then. I will be putting some of the SMSF cash into crypto and hope it doesn't dissapear.
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I dont have much $$$ in BTC either as I dont like the risk but I did buy 30K worth of shares in G8 education recently so wish me luck ( I am 5% down currently )

I usually just buy ETF that track certain things but I feel good about this one.
 
Jislizard said:
According to ChatGPT: Your silver investment experienced an annualized return of approximately 5.25% from October 2014 to October 2023.

Around the same as rental returns and term deposits.
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Is that calculated in USD or AUD?
 
I asked for AUD and chatgpt was pretty good at using it, not so much for Bitcoin, kept defaulting to USD for that.

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Platinum on the other hand...

Remember when Platinum reached parity with gold and everyone on the forum was getting excited about this buying oportunity?

From December 6, 2011, to October 2023, the price of 1 oz of platinum declined from AU$1,585.00 to AU$1,365.00, resulting in a nominal annualized return of approximately -1.17% per year and an inflation-adjusted (real) annualized return of approximately -4.6% per year.

I wish that had gone sideways. I broke even on it in March this year when it went back to its 2012 prices...

From December 6, 2011, to October 2025, the price of 1 oz of platinum increased from AU$1,585.00 to approximately AU$2,519.38, representing a nominal annualized return of 4.3% per year and an inflation-adjusted (real) annualized return of approximately 1.7% per year.

Glad I just bought one platypus.
 
Jislizard said:
From December 6, 2011, to October 2025, the price of 1 oz of platinum increased from AU$1,585.00 to approximately AU$2,519.38, representing a nominal annualized return of 4.3% per year and an inflation-adjusted (real) annualized return of approximately 1.7% per year.

Glad I just bought one platypus.
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I have not done the query but from 2011 to 2025 with silver considering the peak in 2011 it is STILL probably better than silver over those specific years
 
yep just did the query
better than silver still

So the inflation-adjusted annualized return on silver in AUD from the April 2011 high to October 2025 is roughly 0.9 % per year in real terms.
 
much wow 0.9% return on your long term investment or as I ahve been saying for years <-----------------------------------SIDEWAYS------------------------------------------------>
(bet some here missed that ()
 
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