Silver up 22% this year.

sammysilver

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Silver Stacker
Since the market opened on Friday, January 2, until last Friday, January 22, silver has gone up $4 or 22.22%.

This in an environment of falling oil prices, Ukraine world tensions, Swiss Franc unpegging, European terrorist action, EU QE, and now the Greek erections. (Love my malapropisms.) Not a black swan per se, but a procession of ugly ducklings.

All silver bought sub $20 is showing a good return, but I believe all sub $24 silver is still a catch, i.e. Past 18 months or so. Today, at over 1% per day, silver will be $90 by the end of this year. (We may wish.) GSR is dropping in line with the silver increase at 6%. At this rate GSR will be sub 35 at the end of the year.

These figures are mathematical and in no way are they a prediction, but as a trend, they demonstrate that maybe some time in the future, maybe within the year, we may want to be flipping silver for gold. You may have noticed that on the Sydney Meat thread, SilverPete is rationalising his stack, it's the way to go. The last thing you want when swapping silver for gold is arguing the premiums of a dozen different silver ounces. I think limiting your stack to only one type of silver is beneficial if you wish to trade out in the future, in a hurry! If you like your variety, other than traders, stick to only one of each, knowing you may keep them in perpetuity, but the main stack should be well known, singular, and cheap.

This strategy should also be incorporated within your SMSF stack, probably more so. And whatever you do, don't sell your stack to your SMSF as it will be costing you 50% in tax.

Lastly, don't keep your savings in the bank at this time, think bail-ins, think Cyprus, think Russia, ignore Switzerland, cash will be king.

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Sounds like a reasonable plan put together by the Sydney stacker clan. The start of this year has highlighted perfectly why we hold PM's. For me it's all about the math, lets face it, you don't really need conspiracy theories, if the sovereigns of the world were businesses they would be operating insolvent.

I suspect there may be a bit of a pullback with the FOMC meeting and Option expiration next week. The game continues!
 
Good post.

I think a good way to view all this is to hope for the best, but expect the worst.

Even if silver falls again for a period, as we have seen over the past several days things can change very quickly. The global economy is increasingly on edge. Very twitchy. This is an environment primed for sudden market disruptions.

On stacks:

Stack simplification and focus is my principal aim at the moment. I'm gradually finding my focus.

However, and maybe this differs according to age and outlook on the future, I think that your focus doesn't necessarily have to be on the most utilitarian forms of silver. You can still have some fun while building a stack if there is something specific you are really interested in and have the time & energy -- antique bars, sovereigns, lunars, pandas, etc -- and potentially these could even make you a very good return if that is something care about and are willing to put the in effort to understand the market. Some people really enjoy that, the thrill of the hunt, the excitement of finding a bargain for something rare, the community, etc.

...stick to only one of each, knowing you may keep them in perpetuity, but the main stack should be well known, singular, and cheap.
Exactly what I was thinking last night! How to align a desire for simplicity and utility with an obviously strong interest in certain coins. My current thinking with such miscellaneous items (as opposed to the main stack which is out of sight in a SDB) is that if I am overly worried about losing something through disaster or robbery, so much so that I'd consider locking it away with my stack, then its just not worth keeping.

Just my random thoughts.
 
Newtosilver said:
Apparently it is going sideways, or that is what I have raed anyway........

If this is sideways, I hope it keeps going sideways this year.
 
Golds top was $1800, its now at $1630.aud.10% loss if bought at top.
Silvers top was $48, it now $23.
There are more happy gold buyers.
 
Peter said:
Golds top was $1800, its now at $1630.aud.10% loss if bought at top.
Silvers top was $48, it now $23.
There are more happy gold buyers.
I'm very happy with my sovereign!
 
Peter said:
Golds top was $1800, its now at $1630.aud.10% loss if bought at top.
Silvers top was $48, it now $23.
There are more happy gold buyers.

This was the time to flip silver for gold. I hope this time round I can take advantage of a favourable GSR.
Conversely, if I was holding gold today, I'd flip it for silver and flip back in due course.
 
No,in a few months or less silver will be lower then the start of this year. Silver is up this time every year in the last 3 or so years. As well this year is not going to be any better then the last few years for silver. Just buy it,doesn't even make a differences anymore the price of silver is cheap. Not sure why all the wondering about silvers price action its weak. Just get over it and buy it.T
 
Time to use the ignore function for this one... Getting on my nerves.

Sammy: swapping silver for gold: sure good idea, but who will you swap it with? Apart from dealers, I am not sure you will find many gold stackers to part with their gold stack for the white stuff.

Thoughts?
Then perhaps it makes sense to focus the stack on convertibility at a dealer and that only means one thing: low premium stuff.
 
Did it also *fall* too fast for your liking, as well? :p

There were a few quick steep drops going back since September, if you recall.

Shooting back up like this doesn't surprise me, after those.. Not all that out of the ordinary for various markets over the ages.
 
Phiber said:
Time to use the ignore function for this one... Getting on my nerves.

Sammy: swapping silver for gold: sure good idea, but who will you swap it with? Apart from dealers, I am not sure you will find many gold stackers to part with their gold stack for the white stuff.

Thoughts?
Then perhaps it makes sense to focus the stack on convertibility at a dealer and that only means one thing: low premium stuff.
By flipping it can mean selling your silver to those buying on the rising market and then buying gold straight from a dealer or known Stackeratti. Alternatively, buy all your silver from a local dealer with the understanding he will buy back off you in exchange for gold. He would then sell the silver to the buyers in the rising market.
 
trew said:
Mr sideways must still be on holiday

my side ways predictions was always mid to low 20's and approx for another 6 months now to go before we see a break aboe this for a period of time is my prediction
 
Though a public holiday here in Australia today, the market opens in 3 hours. The Greek elections are pointing to a change of government. This will put the Euro in some jeopardy. Even though Greece is only about 1% of the European economy, it may be the first domino to fall so there will be some rearrangement of the deck chairs to accomodate her demands.
This uncertainty will help maintain this recent rise in precious metals.

It will be interesting to see if there is a spike this morning because of this, or a dip as investors take profits.
 
Or this may cause a major jolt to a sensitive world environment.

Anti-austerity Syriza party has won Greece's general election, putting the country on a possible collision course with the EU over its massive bailout.

With nearly 75% of the votes counted, Syriza is projected to win 149 seats, just two short of an absolute majority, though that number could change.

Left-wing party leader Alexis Tsipras, who wants to renegotiate Greece's debt, said "the Greeks wrote history".

The governing centre-right New Democracy has come a distant second.

Outgoing Prime Min
 
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