SilverKendo
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Buy more American Silver eagles. Avoid generic rounds like SBSS. Got it! Lesson learned. 
Silver Bullet Silver Sheild Coins
- Thread starter Shamatti
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Well, just too many SBSS designs to find them all desirable, I agree.Pirocco said:
I can see someone wanting to get one of each, but not myself.
You certainly have a handle on a lot of this stuff, but you don't seem to have a clue about the collector market.
At this moment in time, zombies are trending hot and heavy, as well as miss-managed or derelict governments bringing financial death and destruction.
Enter Zumbucks. I missed the original issue of the first of ten 'coins of the apocalypse', but got on board after a heads up by copperhead.
Here is how I see it.
Stackers hardly noticed - unless they were fans of The Walking Dead series, and there are a lot of fans.
Many stackers were like you - 'Who wants comic books on silver?'.
So 40k got issued in a 3 month period, and the market price doubled very quickly.
Released at bullion price - like the SS and SSSB BU issues.
Coppers for less than SS rounds going price (under $1.50), also doubled, and then some.
Morgue Anne and Zombuffs not nearly as popular with collectors, but still collectable, with good increase in premium on the resale market.
Mintage has remained at abut 40k for silver and 100+k for the copper.
The whole series may dry up, or......
It does depend on design ideas, and skeletons and skulls will be an integral part of any successful designs.
My adult children and teenage grandchildren love them, as well as any Walking Dead fans.
Provident and SS have been on the cusp of a expanding market. It will not go away soon.
I am buying tubes of SS SSSB personal favorites at bullion prices, and if the collector market dries up, I still have the bullion.
With SS and SSSB, I also like proof-like for higher premiums, that could still easily be sold at spot price with no loss of wealth in a few years (no guarantees).
Freedom Girl is great, and I like others, but I will be watching for skeletons and skulls too.
It all comes back to that (dubious) idea espoused by so many, that silver is money.
Rounds are encroaching into the silver coin market, benefiting from the confusion.
The status of private mint issues are gaining in popularity, not only by stackers, but by collectors who do not stack.
I buy some silver (and now copper) with collectors in mind.
Just part of my diversity plan.
This does not diminish the value of your excellent observations in other areas.
shinymetal
Well-Known Member
i was just looking on ebay at what freedom girl double obverse are selling for.
i am extremely pissed to find out that this coin. with a mintage of only 100 has being done over by having another 200 minted earlier this year.
granted these don't have certificates or anything not even a case.
i find this extreme bullsh*t pushing it just that little bit to far.. the original ones were pushing around the $400 mark on ebay. this new one is $130..
no doubt this is MM pumping these out. they are doing everything they can to kill the first series of these rounds with all the enemy unknown/d&d and every other variation in between.
totally killed it. do these even count as part of the series?
i am extremely pissed to find out that this coin. with a mintage of only 100 has being done over by having another 200 minted earlier this year.
granted these don't have certificates or anything not even a case.
i find this extreme bullsh*t pushing it just that little bit to far.. the original ones were pushing around the $400 mark on ebay. this new one is $130..
no doubt this is MM pumping these out. they are doing everything they can to kill the first series of these rounds with all the enemy unknown/d&d and every other variation in between.
totally killed it. do these even count as part of the series?
Well, MM was in bankruptcy.
They wouldn't be making such decisions, although RG may be advising.
And possibly the Republic of Texas bought MM.
http://blogs.wsj.com/bankruptcy/2014/03/06/lawyer-texas-separatists-considered-buying-mulligan-mint/
When creditors want their money, the courts do anything legal to get it for them.
When new owners of a business take over, they do what they can to make a profit.
They call it speculation for a reason.
I have to smile at "count as part of the series?".
The collector market decides the value.
If they are struck from the same dies - indistinguishable from the first releases - they have equal value, which has been diluted.
Collectors who bought the first will tell those who buy the new releases 'Yours are bogus, mine are real.'
But really.............
$400 last week, $130 today, $65 next week, and $35 the week after.
And so it goes.
~ ~ ~
The 'proof like' Freedom Girl from SS, (Trivium reverse), are in a presentation box and capsule, numbered COA, for under $35.
Same with Standing Freedom (3/4 pose).
I like.
They wouldn't be making such decisions, although RG may be advising.
And possibly the Republic of Texas bought MM.
http://blogs.wsj.com/bankruptcy/2014/03/06/lawyer-texas-separatists-considered-buying-mulligan-mint/
When creditors want their money, the courts do anything legal to get it for them.
When new owners of a business take over, they do what they can to make a profit.
They call it speculation for a reason.
I have to smile at "count as part of the series?".
The collector market decides the value.
If they are struck from the same dies - indistinguishable from the first releases - they have equal value, which has been diluted.
Collectors who bought the first will tell those who buy the new releases 'Yours are bogus, mine are real.'
But really.............
$400 last week, $130 today, $65 next week, and $35 the week after.
And so it goes.
~ ~ ~
The 'proof like' Freedom Girl from SS, (Trivium reverse), are in a presentation box and capsule, numbered COA, for under $35.
Same with Standing Freedom (3/4 pose).
I like.
T
tas stacker
Guest
I have some of the Silver Shield Pieces of Eight nice coins
shinymetal
Well-Known Member
http://forums.silverstackers.com/topic-49937-sbss-final-mintage.html
Debt and Death
53,427
1. Hard Strike- (All Arrowheads in detail) 20
2. Soft Strike (Shallow strike Arrowheads flat) 100
3. SBS-s (- the "s" on problems) oiled est? 300
4. SBS-s (- the "s" on problems) clean est? 560
5. Regular oiled 3,000
6. Regular/Proof 41,457
7. BU both sides Est? 4,000
8. Wide Reed 3,900
Trivium
56,969
BU 52,970
Proof 3,999
New Year's SSG Member's
2,012
2012
Slave Queen SSG Member's
2,013
2013
Slave Queen
88,000
BU est? 80,000
Proof est? 8,000
Freedom Girl
165,000
BU est? 150,000
Proof est? 15,000
Warbird
48,716
BU 42,060
Proof 3,880
BU Warbird/ Proof Shield SSG
1,776
BU Warbird/ Proof Love SSG
1,000
Love
17,080
BU 14,040
Proof 3,040
AG47
16,900
BU 14,460
Proof 2,440
Cannabis
17,320
BU 15,120
Proof 2,200
2 oz. Freedom Girl
7,000
BU 5,000
Proof 2,000
5 oz Trivium
3,100
BU 2,000
Proof 1,100
Sic Semper Tyrannis
19,890
BU 16,640
Proof 3,250
Agryraspides
12,150
BU 9,300
Proof 2,850
Peace On Earth
9,870
BU 7,220
Proof 1,650
POE Proof/Santa Slave BU SSG
1,000
Santa Slave
10,690
BU 8,840
Proof 1,850
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
there are a few missing
freedom girl proof / freedom girl proof.
warbird / cannabis
maybe some more, but i'm not gunna count (every possible combination) of double obverse coins they minted after the closure of MM
Debt and Death
53,427
1. Hard Strike- (All Arrowheads in detail) 20
2. Soft Strike (Shallow strike Arrowheads flat) 100
3. SBS-s (- the "s" on problems) oiled est? 300
4. SBS-s (- the "s" on problems) clean est? 560
5. Regular oiled 3,000
6. Regular/Proof 41,457
7. BU both sides Est? 4,000
8. Wide Reed 3,900
Trivium
56,969
BU 52,970
Proof 3,999
New Year's SSG Member's
2,012
2012
Slave Queen SSG Member's
2,013
2013
Slave Queen
88,000
BU est? 80,000
Proof est? 8,000
Freedom Girl
165,000
BU est? 150,000
Proof est? 15,000
Warbird
48,716
BU 42,060
Proof 3,880
BU Warbird/ Proof Shield SSG
1,776
BU Warbird/ Proof Love SSG
1,000
Love
17,080
BU 14,040
Proof 3,040
AG47
16,900
BU 14,460
Proof 2,440
Cannabis
17,320
BU 15,120
Proof 2,200
2 oz. Freedom Girl
7,000
BU 5,000
Proof 2,000
5 oz Trivium
3,100
BU 2,000
Proof 1,100
Sic Semper Tyrannis
19,890
BU 16,640
Proof 3,250
Agryraspides
12,150
BU 9,300
Proof 2,850
Peace On Earth
9,870
BU 7,220
Proof 1,650
POE Proof/Santa Slave BU SSG
1,000
Santa Slave
10,690
BU 8,840
Proof 1,850
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
there are a few missing
freedom girl proof / freedom girl proof.
warbird / cannabis
maybe some more, but i'm not gunna count (every possible combination) of double obverse coins they minted after the closure of MM
T
tas stacker
Guest
What do you think of thease http://www.apmex.com/product/94853/2016-1-oz-silver-round-pieces-of-eight