Signs of a global social-economic collapse

[dccpa]

"The Great Depression had a silver lining: During that hard time, U.S. life expectancy increased by 6.2 years, researchers say.

Life expectancy rose from 57.1 in 1929 to 63.3 years in 1932, according to the analysis by U-M researchers Jos A. Tapia Granados and Ana Diez Roux. The increase occurred for both men and women, and for whites and non-whites.

"The finding is strong and counterintuitive," says Tapia Granados, the lead author of the study and a researcher at the Institute for Social Research. "Most people assume that periods of high unemployment are harmful to health."

For the study, researchers used historical life expectancy and mortality data to examine associations between economic growth and population health for 1920 to 1940. They found that while population health generally improved during the four years of the Great Depression and during recessions in 1921 and 1938, mortality increased and life expectancy declined during periods of strong economic expansion, such as 1923, 1926, 1929, and 1936-1937.
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http://ur.umich.edu/0910/Oct05_09/19.php

So, in a span of 3 years, the life expectancy increased 6 years. Think about that statement.

They didn't mention that an reduced caloric intake reduces disease and increase longevity. The disease reduction was discovered by observation of Allied prisoners in Japanese prison camps. The longevity increase has been verified by numerous studies involving mice.

Childbirth mortality would have been a very important factor in life expectancy. Childbirth mortality rates were very high in the early 1900s. During the down times, poor to middle class people were less likely to have kids. Wealthier people, who had access to better health care, would have still had children. Less births by those without access to good healthcare equals lower childbirth mortality. Lower childbirth mortality equals greater life expectancy. See the first paragraph on the linked page below regarding childbirth mortality:

http://health.howstuffworks.com/pre...r-delivery/how-to-prepare-for-childbirth1.htm

 

[BeHereNow]

That amazes me though I cannot dispute it.

Both nutrition and health care would have suffered in those tough times, and I wonder why it would have made such a dramatic improvement.

JMO


OC

First, correlation is not causation, it might be a coincidence.
Maybe life expectancy increase would have been twice as much, if no depression.

Maybe tough times make people tough.

People did starve to death, and suffered from malnutrition.
That 7 million number is way off base.

 

[Hp1173]

Maybe The Cutting off of russian gas to the rest of Europe may be a big warning!
Gas might be the new investment!

 

[Clawhammer]

I'll believe it when i see it actually happening on t.v news.

"....the revolution will not be televised..."

 

[TreasureHunter]

Maybe The Cutting off of russian gas to the rest of Europe may be a big warning!
Gas might be the new investment!

They cut off the gas to the Ukraine only, but not to the rest of Europe.
They want money in advance from the Ukraine.

You'll see more alternative gas production uproar: biogas, shale gas...

Perhaps more and more will start getting rid of gas dependency. Some EU countries have plenty of gas (like Norway), others have rich unexploited geothermal energy resources (like Hungary), but most might turn to electricity-based equipment - so far as as they can stretch: electrical heating, etc.

 

[JulieW]

UK has raised gas prices already.

http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFL5N0OU1LH20140613

* Injections into storage increase, creating undersupply

* July, winter contracts up on concerns of supply disruption

LONDON, June 13 (Reuters) - British wholesale gas prices rose on Friday morning as an increase of injections into storage created an undersupplied system and on concerns that Russia will cut off gas supplies to Ukraine on Monday.

The day-ahead contract rose 0.80 pence to 40.00 pence per therm, while gas for immediate delivery was up 0.70 pence at 40.20 pence per therm.

Britain's gas system was undersupplied by 6 million cubic metres (mcm) of gas on Friday morning. Supplies were seen at 177 mcm/day and demand was forecast to be almost 183 mcm, according to the National Grid.

The imbalance is most likely due to an increase in injections into storage, which are at around 42 mcm.

Further along the curve, gas for delivery in July was 0.80 pence higher at 41.20 pence per therm, while the winter 2014 gas contract rose by 0.70 pence to a nine-day high of 60.00 pence.

Russian natural gas exporter Gazprom said on Thursday it would halt supplies to Ukraine if it fails to pay off part of its gas debts by Monday, raising fears of disruptions in gas flows to Europe.

Britain gets around 5 percent of its gas from Russian sources and its storage facilities are currently 76 percent full, leading analysts to believe that Britain will be cushioned from any disruption in European gas flows in the short term.

 

[Old Codger]

Is Europe so dependent on Russian gas that they MUST buy from them, or is there an alternative product and source?

I would expect that pissing off a big customer is not a good idea, and maybe that customer has a long memory. especially in the coming years when contracts are due for renewal. I would not be happy about signing long term and vital supply contracts with a supplier I could not trust.

just a thought.

OC

 

[Court Jester]

Is Europe so dependent on Russian gas that they MUST buy from them, or is there an alternative product and source?

I would expect that pissing off a big customer is not a good idea, and maybe that customer has a long memory. especially in the coming years when contracts are due for renewal. I would not be happy about signing long term and vital supply contracts with a supplier I could not trust.

just a thought.

OC

there are alternatives none of which are really as good. I dont see what the problem is. If you dont pay your bills at home your supply is cut off. This is no different.