Signs of a global social-economic collapse

TreasureHunter

TreasureHunter

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There are several strong signs that are pointing out to a possible major global crisis:
http://www.primevalues.org/main-gctb.htm

Of course, we can all hope the event won't happen, but the signs are obvious and the trends aren't promising much optimism.

Petrodollars, countries avoiding the US dollar, social unrest spreading, youth unemployment high... etc.
 
TreasureHunter said:
There are several strong signs that are pointing out to a possible major global crisis:
http://www.primevalues.org/main-gctb.htm

Of course, we can all hope the event won't happen, but the signs are obvious and the trends aren't promising much optimism.

Petrodollars, countries avoiding the US dollar, social unrest spreading, youth unemployment high... etc.
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Everything I saw there was ifs, ands and buts. Looks like all the other web sites trying to cash in on the scare-you-to-death scenarios.
 
Interesting list of possible triggers, throw in the current regional conflicts with the possibility of all out war, and you have a lay down misere. This is why hard assets, off the grid are so important.

1. Mounting Government Debt

2. The Euro Collapse Might Not Be Far

3. The Petrodollar Demise Would Bring a Dollar Collapse

4. Countries Phasing Out the US Dollar

5. Possible Stock Market Crash

6. The Detroit Syndrome - When Thriving Big Cities Go Bankrupt

7. The Greece Scenario: Country-wide Social-economic Collapse

8. The Cyprus Scenario: A Premise for Wealth Taxation

9. Youth Unemployment Rising in the Western World

10. Increasing Social Unrest

11. Monetary Easing: Trendy, But Dangerous Business

12. A Chinese Recession Could Bring the World's Economy Down

13. Global Economic Slowdown

14. Could the Cryptocurrencies Signal the Coming of a New Financial

15. The Importance of Regional Currencies is Increasing

16. Trade Wars, Financial Wars, Currency Wars are Undergoing

17. Energy Resource-related Conflicts are Spreading
 
I with you guys on the signs pointing to a global meltdown and the precarious situation we now seem to be in.

But there is always a nagging doubt when I think about all the times over the last decade or two when I've heard predictions of imminent collapse that never eventuate. Maybe the world economy is more robust than we think? Or maybe we keep dodging bullets which will only make things worse the eventually the SHTF?

Also, I think we need to be aware of the echo chamber effect:

Participants in online communities may find their own opinions constantly echoed back to them, which reinforces their individual belief systems. This can create significant barriers to critical discourse within an online medium. The echo chamber effect may also impact a lack of recognition to large demographic changes in language and culture on the Internet if individuals only create, experience and navigate those online spaces that reinforce their world view. Another emerging term for this echoing and homogenizing effect on the Internet within social communities is cultural tribalism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_chamber_(media)
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Personally, I look not at the 'trigger' scenarios, but more what could possibly PREVENT the SHTF scenario from playing out, and I am damned if I can see one.

No surge in true GDP growth, no balanced budgets in any of the G20, no reduction only expansion in the sea of red ink. No true change in the employment trends. No personal debt turnaround.

Only ever rising debts, ever rising Government Bond sales, artificial interest rates.

Show me what is going to save us!


OC
 
TFK,


"Israel is currently surrounded by 50,000 members of ISIS and other types,and they have said very very publicly that they WILL use Nuclear Weapons to defend themselves if need be."

OC - whats your thought about this - ?????




AFAIK, the ONLY people working on, but do NOT possess (yet) nuclear weapons is Iran. Maybe one day they will get an operational system of warheads and rockets, but they are a long way from that yet.

Also AFAIK, ISIS is a bunch of fanatics generally backed by other bunches of fanatics.

I will stick my head out and repeat yet again:-

If Iran or any muslim bunch manage to put a nuke over Tel Aviv, it will mean the (SECOND STRIKE) incineration of a dozen or more muslim cities, INCLUDING Mecca! NONE will be safe, and if Moscow try to intervene then you can add that city to the target list. I am sure they are on it anyway!

THAT is why Israel has 4 of its 6 ordered 'Dolphin' subs are armed with nuke cruise missiles (1500 Kms) ready for action.

Israel will NOT use nukes first, but their UNofficial motto is "Never Again', and they will NOT walk backwards into the Mediterranean Sea!

JMO


OC
 
That Merkava 4 is a mean machine too.

They still have/had a fair bunch of Centurions that they used to dig in and use as artillery from fixed sites. They even have old 'Shermans' that they use as tank recovery vehicles and wounded retrieval etc.


OC
 
Nothing new here. All these conditions have existed for past 10 years
 
I am not certain they have any!

They reckon the Merkava 4 is the best tank in the world, though I do not agree. A very good tank, but not the best. I prefer the British Challenger 2 or the German Leopard A6. Much better than our 2nd hand, refurbished, M1A1s

In 1973, the US sent M60s to Israel ONE at a time in C5As to replace Yom Kippur losses.


OC
 
Democracy may well be the catalyst that finally breaks global economy's back. "If" the world can remain duct-taped and super-glued together for the next few years there is key elections in France, Spain, Greece and the US election to contend with. If Greece were to hold an election today the left-wing ant-euro party would win and in France there would be major support for the right-wing anti-euro party.
 
The Fisher King said:
Israel is about 18 times smaller than Tasmania - and has nearly 4000 Battle Tanks.
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18 times smaller? Some googling informs me of the following:

Tasmania: 68,401 km
Israel: 20,770 km

No idea how many battle tanks Tasmania has in comparison.
 
SilverPete said:
The Fisher King said:
Israel is about 18 times smaller than Tasmania - and has nearly 4000 Battle Tanks.
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18 times smaller? Some googling informs me of the following:

Tasmania: 68,401 km
Israel: 20,770 km

No idea how many battle tanks Tasmania has in comparison.
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Made me laugh. I don't see hoards of people trying to get into tasmania.
 
Old Codger said:
Wouldn't mind fighting a war with her, well a wrestle will be enough.


OC
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Changed it so you could see the words OC.

Here's another - actually on the MSM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aB8kSNlz2A[/youtube]
 
I think 99 % of the people I come across are still unaware of the clear signs out there.
It's not just the signs that are important to know, but the details and the evolution of each one.

Thing is, all of them are worsening. One-by-one,... we can look at the petrodollar's case, the fact that countries are avoiding the US dollar, the youth unemployment rates in many Western countries, the social unrest events happening (now in Brazil too!), the slowing down of the Chinese economy and so on...

I just don't see the recovery, but I'd love to see it.

Even Roubini and Krugman were scaring us with their remarks not long ago.

Let's hope for the best. Perhaps we won't go into the Cyprus-Greece-Detroit triangle.
 
dccpa said:
TreasureHunter said:
There are several strong signs that are pointing out to a possible major global crisis:
http://www.primevalues.org/main-gctb.htm

Of course, we can all hope the event won't happen, but the signs are obvious and the trends aren't promising much optimism.

Petrodollars, countries avoiding the US dollar, social unrest spreading, youth unemployment high... etc.
Click to expand...

Everything I saw there was ifs, ands and buts. Looks like all the other web sites trying to cash in on the scare-you-to-death scenarios.
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All predictions are "ifs" and there always are "buts".
I think it's important not to forget the evolution of those factors/issues. To me the details are important as well.

Of course, well-documented people are well-aware of these, but I reckon the vast majority of people aren't. But it's all in front of us.
 
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