Rich? We've got Piles.

JulieW

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Warning: Real Estate discussion potential ahead.

This is one of the scariest news headlines I've seen in quite a few years.
Keep stacking folks.

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Source: news.com.au
Report: Australia home to richest people and wealthiest property market

THE average Aussie is sitting on a nest egg of nearly $200K, making us the richest people in the world, a global report says.

Australians have a median wealth per adult of $US194,000, beating out Japan, Italy, Belgium and Britain, according to the Credit Suisse Global Wealth Report 2012, which surveyed 216 countries.

And it's about to get a whole lot better.

The report forecasts that our 905,000 millionaires will swell to 1.6m over the next five years - a staggering 82 percent increase.

America still has the largest number of millionaires - more than 11million - three times higher than its nearest rival Japan.

With plentiful land, sparse population, natural resources and high home prices, Australia's proportion of individuals with wealth above $100,000 is the most of any country and eight times the world average.

"Notably, Australia's median wealth per adult of US$194,000 is the highest in the world, well ahead of Switzerland at $US87,137 and Norway at $US79,376," the report says.

Wealth per adult on average in Australia was $US355,000, the second highest after Switzerland, despite exchange rate changes and diminishing wealth in Europe.

Very few Australians had a net worth of less than $10,000, reflecting relatively low credit card use and student debt.

Australia's financial standing has been boosted by the strong currency, with most of the wealth held in property assets.

Our wealth is further boosted by the $1.2 trillion superannuation regime.

The report also shows that for the first time Asia-Pacific has overtaken Europe as the world's richest region, with holdings of $US74 trillion.
http://www.news.com.au/realestate/n...et/story-fncq3gat-1226493797529#ixzz2IWciYs1m
 
There numbers are based on an over bloated property market and supposed future value of the super annuation (not taking into account inflation or possible loses by incompetent managers). So the news is another fluff piece.
 
Thanks for the post Julie. :(

I never ever knew I was soooooooo rich!

I may just have to go out and buy so more silver!

If things keep going well, I too could be a millionaire soon as I am half way there at least!

Go RE or maybe Silver!

Regards Errol 43
 
Everyone knows property prices will always keep rising, no matter what.

I actually read that in the financial section of a newspaper the other month. I don't remember the newspaper but the author was dead serious.
 
Asset rich and cashflow poor.

People get to feel wealthy for merely owning the deed to their house, or owning a mortgage.

So if we've passed euphoria, I guess this is denial?
 
Dogmatix said:
Asset rich and cashflow poor.

People get to feel wealthy for merely owning the deed to their house, or owning a mortgage.

So if we've passed euphoria, I guess this is denial?
Most wealthy people i know are asset rich & cash poor (in relative terms) thats how they become asset rich by ploughing their cash into hard assets
 
renovator said:
Dogmatix said:
Asset rich and cashflow poor.

People get to feel wealthy for merely owning the deed to their house, or owning a mortgage.

So if we've passed euphoria, I guess this is denial?
Most wealthy people i know are asset rich & cash poor (in relative terms) thats how they become asset rich by ploughing their cash into hard assets

Cash and cashflow are the same now? I'd better inform my accountant.
 
Logik said:
Everyone knows property prices will always keep rising, no matter what.

I actually read that in the financial section of a newspaper the other month. I don't remember the newspaper but the author was dead serious.

I don't see why property prices couldn't go to the moon.

I just note that the value will likely decline.
 
Most wealthy people i know are asset rich & cash poor (in relative terms) thats how they become asset rich by ploughing their cash into hard assets

Most poor people i know are debt rich & cash poor (in relative terms) thats how they become poor by ploughing their cash into trinkets and gratification.
 
JulieW said:
Most wealthy people i know are asset rich & cash poor (in relative terms) thats how they become asset rich by ploughing their cash into hard assets

Most poor people i know are debt rich & cash poor (in relative terms) thats how they become poor by ploughing their cash into trinkets and gratification.

actually it depends on what you term is an 'asset', unfortunately most people views assets as the junk and trinkets that they purchase.
 
Articles like this are usually good contrary indicators. How many of these rich are swimming naked?
 
hem9 said:
actually it depends on what you term is an 'asset', unfortunately most people views assets as the junk and trinkets that they purchase.
This is the bit I love.

Knowing that people list down their car as an asset, even though it's almost wholly owned by a bank under a finance arrangement with the dealer they got it from.

:lol:
 
RetardedMonkey said:
hem9 said:
actually it depends on what you term is an 'asset', unfortunately most people views assets as the junk and trinkets that they purchase.
This is the bit I love.

Knowing that people list down their car as an asset, even though it's almost wholly owned by a bank under a finance arrangement with the dealer they got it from.

:lol:

To be fair, it is an asset, so they get that bit right at least.

Working out whether it's their asset or the bank's asset is where people start going wrong.
 
Big A.D. said:
RetardedMonkey said:
hem9 said:
actually it depends on what you term is an 'asset', unfortunately most people views assets as the junk and trinkets that they purchase.
This is the bit I love.

Knowing that people list down their car as an asset, even though it's almost wholly owned by a bank under a finance arrangement with the dealer they got it from.

:lol:

To be fair, it is an asset, so they get that bit right at least.

Working out whether it's their asset or the bank's asset is where people start going wrong.

And assets that depreciate vs assets that may appreciate.

Buy a car for $30k, sell it the next week for $27k, or in five years for $18k...

Meanwhile, in debt land where riches abound, the total car debt (inc payments) grows to $60k.

Now that's an asset!
 
Dogmatix said:
Big A.D. said:
RetardedMonkey said:
This is the bit I love.

Knowing that people list down their car as an asset, even though it's almost wholly owned by a bank under a finance arrangement with the dealer they got it from.

:lol:

To be fair, it is an asset, so they get that bit right at least.

Working out whether it's their asset or the bank's asset is where people start going wrong.

And assets that depreciate vs assets that may appreciate.

Buy a car for $30k, sell it the next week for $27k, or in five years for $18k...

Meanwhile, in debt land where riches abound, the total car debt (inc payments) grows to $60k.

Now that's an asset!
Rapidly depreciating personal assets like cars/computers should always be paid for with cash rather than through the banking system as the banking system magically creates a % of the value in new "cash" but doesn't create the cash needed to pay the interest bill. One way path to debt slavery with feeding of the parasites with bankruptcy the only way out. :( Somehow I instinctively knew this from day 1 and have always paid cash (thank goodness).
 
Dogmatix said:
Big A.D. said:
RetardedMonkey said:
This is the bit I love.

Knowing that people list down their car as an asset, even though it's almost wholly owned by a bank under a finance arrangement with the dealer they got it from.

:lol:

To be fair, it is an asset, so they get that bit right at least.

Working out whether it's their asset or the bank's asset is where people start going wrong.

And assets that depreciate vs assets that may appreciate.

Buy a car for $30k, sell it the next week for $27k, or in five years for $18k...

Meanwhile, in debt land where riches abound, the total car debt (inc payments) grows to $60k.

Now that's an asset!

So they should be including the interest value of that $30k Car and listing that asset as $60K, Shit their richer than they thought :lol:
 
southerncross said:
Dogmatix said:
Meanwhile, in debt land where riches abound, the total car debt (inc payments) grows to $60k.

Now that's an asset!

So they should be including the interest value of that $30k Car and listing that asset as $60K, Shit their richer than they thought :lol:

Well the bankers sure are. Looks pretty good on their balance sheet.

Until you get to the point where debts can't be paid. Then you've got the old problem of owing a million to the bank being your problem and owing the bank a billion being the bank's problem. With the billion metaphorically representing the accumulated debt of Australia.
 
renovator said:
Dogmatix said:
Asset rich and cashflow poor.

People get to feel wealthy for merely owning the deed to their house, or owning a mortgage.

So if we've passed euphoria, I guess this is denial?
Most wealthy people i know are asset rich & cash poor (in relative terms) thats how they become asset rich by ploughing their cash into hard assets

Funny that same here :rolleyes:
I don't bother even telling them about bullion these days ;)
 
As a little boy growing up in a working class suburb watching most of the Italians and Greeks hoe into property and running their own small business made me realise the cash flowed from the business to real estate was a slow road to extreme wealth.

If you adjust that model using trusts to hold your business income and properties in seperate entities there are further tax deferment benifits. The longer you can defer the tax the great the compounding.

Think and grow rich

Kind Regards
non recourse
 
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