RE Boom for BrisVegis

Absolute cockamamy, Hoegh-Guldberg had to backtrack on most of his claims made in the quoted article and Paper.

2. OUR REEF WILL DIE

PROFESSOR Ove Hoegh-Guldberg, of Queensland University, is Australia's most quoted reef expert.

He's advised business, green and government groups, and won our rich Eureka Prize for scares about the Great Barrier Reef. He's chaired a $20 million global warming study of the World Bank.

In 1999, Hoegh-Guldberg warned that the Great Barrier Reef was under pressure from global warming, and much of it had turned white.

In fact, he later admitted the reef had made a "surprising" recovery.

In 2006, he warned high temperatures meant "between 30 and 40 per cent of coral on Queensland's great Barrier Reef could die within a month".

In fact, he later admitted this bleaching had "a minimal impact".

In 2007, he warned that temperature changes of the kind caused by global warming were again bleaching the reef.

In fact, the Global Coral Reef Monitoring Network last week said there had been no big damage to the reef caused by climate change in the four years since its last report, and veteran diver Ben Cropp said this week that in 50 years he'd seen none at all.
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http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...ents/column_the_10_worst_warming_predictions/

Summary of results:
The Great Barrier Reef Marine
Park Authority, Queensland Parks and Wildlife Service,
researchers and industry partners completed 374 reef health surveys covering 54 reefs
between 1 Dec 2011 and 30 April 2012.
Overall, survey results indicated a low level of coral stress on the Great Barrier Reef during
summer 2011/12 and autumn 2012. Half of all surveys (52 per cent) recorded no impacts to
reef health.
Of the remainder, 31 per cent of surveys reported one type of reef health impact,
and 17 per cent of surveys recorded more than one type of impact.
Of the surveys that found impacts, physical damage was the most common type found (35 per cent), closely followed
by coral bleaching (31 per cent). Coral disease was noted in 17 per cent of surveys, and less
than 10 per cent of surveys recorded signs of predation from crown-of-thorns-starfish or
Drupella snails. Whilst impacts were recorded on 48 per cent of surveys in the majority of
cases these impacts were mild in severity and unlikely to result in serious or lasting damage.
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http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/__data/ass...71/Review_conditions_GBR_Summer_2011_2012.pdf




While the limited data for the GBR prior to the 1980s suggests that coral cover was higher than in our survey, we found no evidence of consistent, system-wide decline in coral cover since 1995. Instead, fluctuations in coral cover at subregional scales (10100 km), driven mostly by changes in fast-growing Acroporidae, occurred as a result of localized disturbance events and subsequent recovery.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3053361/
 
Court Jester said:
salty lemon said:
3 more casinos. That'll be three times the gambling family men necking themselves due to debt. Look at how many lives have been ruined down here from Crown Casino.

No point declaring war on Bikies. They'll just operate around the laws, they're hardly gonna shave and get a 9-5 :lol: :lol: ..... Look how the Mongols MC from America patched over the Finks here because the Finks were declared a criminal organisation in Australia, they'll always find a way.
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um I think you will find the Mongols are also on that list as well
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I was thinking of W.A http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...-the-finks-in-wa/story-fnhocxo3-1226739139565
 
SliderC said:
In less then 50 yrs the reefs will all be dead from global warming anyway.

Thats a pretty big risk to tourism numbers if you ask me.

What else is there up there? crocs and jellyfish.
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I bet all the polar bears will be dead too along with the reefs :lol:

Better pay the carbon tax :lol:

Better not look at who's suppressing free clean energy :mad:
 
Maybe the coral reefs will just move south. :) along with the crocs and the box jelly fish.

Regards Errol 43
 
The overwhelming consensus that humans, burning carbon based fossil fuels, is causing global warming is unequivocally agreed to by the massive majority of the worlds top scientists. How can you not believe the evidence?

A couple, probably less than 1% of the scientific community believe otherwise. They plaster these guys over the mainstream media to cause doubt, anything to protect the oil empire whom, not doubt, own/pay out the media.
 
SliderC said:
The overwhelming consensus that humans, burning carbon based fossil fuels, is causing global warming is unequivocally agreed to by the massive majority of the worlds top scientists. How can you not believe the evidence?

A couple, probably less than 1% of the scientific community believe otherwise. They plaster these guys over the mainstream media to cause doubt, anything to protect the oil empire whom, not doubt, own/pay out the media.
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Then explain why over ninety percent of the IPCC's models have proven to be wrong. Explain why none of their predictions have proven to be right ?
Is the climate on the take from big oil as well ?
 
Proven to be wrong in that they were slightly overestimated, not that they didnt still confirm we are warming the climate of our own planet.
 
Nugget said:
renovator said:
lol "war on bikies " like they are terrorists :lol: To me the oz govt looks to be having a war on freedoms for all aussies .
Just relax people suck up the coolaid eat your weetbix & relax they will take care of you .....
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You want a real laugh?



http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...-antibikie-message-across-20131019-2vtoe.html


A bike shop selling push bikes is listed :lol:
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Is this a joke?
The legislation sets down a mandatory 15-year cumulative prison sentence for any offender, found by a jury to have links to a criminal motorcycle gang, with an additional ten years added if they hold a senior position within the club.

Prisoners inside the bikie "superjail" will spend 23 hours a day in their cell with no television, will be denied gym access and will only be entitled to one visit a week with family.

I don't know about you guys but I don't like the precedent being set where merely being associated with something the government dislikes will get you 15 years minimum in maximum security prisons...
Especially since governments don't particularly like gold hoarders lol.
 
SliderC said:
The overwhelming consensus that humans, burning carbon based fossil fuels, is causing global warming is unequivocally agreed to by the massive majority of the worlds top scientists. How can you not believe the evidence?

A couple, probably less than 1% of the scientific community believe otherwise. They plaster these guys over the mainstream media to cause doubt, anything to protect the oil empire whom, not doubt, own/pay out the media.
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Are you serious? What an incredibly stupid thing to say. You are not speaking to stupid 5 year olds. The "99% of the scientific community" thing is a profound lie made up by greenies. A forensic accountant and a synthetic drug designer are members of the "scientific community" and their opinion on climate is no more valid than an Aldi check out operator. This massive "99% of scientists" think is a colossal lie and serves to prove that the whole thing is a hoax, it needs lies on that scale to perpetuate the scam. Stop spreading lies designed to scare the stupid into being fleeced.
 
SliderC said:
The overwhelming consensus that humans, burning carbon based fossil fuels, is causing global warming is unequivocally agreed to by the massive majority of the worlds top scientists. How can you not believe the evidence?

A couple, probably less than 1% of the scientific community believe otherwise. They plaster these guys over the mainstream media to cause doubt, anything to protect the oil empire whom, not doubt, own/pay out the media.
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There is no evidence there at all, just a shill sprouting bullshit and miss-representing the real scientific community. 99% of the scientific community are not even involved with or trained in climate science at all so stop pretending that they have opinions or qualifications that they do not.
 
SliderC said:
Proven to be wrong in that they were slightly overestimated, not that they didnt still confirm we are warming the climate of our own planet.
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Mate every REAL (not fake press release) climatologist knows that we are at the end of the 10,000 year inter-glacial warm period and are heading into the next ice-age in schedule. All of the ice core evidence shows this and it is what every climatologist told us up until the merchant banks ran out of US housing derivatives and had to create a new derivatives scam to get their snouts into. I think that you should sell your house and give all of your savings to General Electric and their business partner Al Gore, the man who recently bought a mansion with 9 bathrooms 5 meters above sea level on the coast. They will spend your money for you. Go on, put your money where your mouth is.
 
RNT..^^^10000years of ideal conditions for human habitation is coming to and end..

Cold conditions do not make it easy for humans to survive and prosper.

Global warming may well give us more time in the comfort zone but then again global dimming may well counter this.

Now these three Casinos may cause a giant shadow as they block out the sun. :) Temperatures will rise for sure inside the Casinos as the sheep loose all their money and can't believe their luck.

Regards Errol 43
 
All the explanations for the cause of this little ice age have come from climatologists studying such things as ice cores from Greenland and the Antarctica.

The year without sun in 1610 in England was one of devistation with crops failing and ensuing famine .

Huge volcanic eruptions in Indonesia at this time caused widespread havoc in SE Asia as well.. Going by the History channel, global dimming may too have been a contributing factor with less sun reaching the earth. This seems to be the case at present too except that other influences must be present or else we would be experience another cold period right now.

Maybe global warming minus global dimming is keeping the world in balance at this moment..

The molecular structure of clouds is another important area as far as climate is concerned.

Another ice age would be as devistating as global warming .

From my readings of books, it seems that 100,000 year cycles have been the norm for the last 1 million years or so.
Roughly 50,000 year tracking down and 50,000 years tracking up with no straight lines, just like a silver price chart...Little Ice ages and mini warming periods have been the little bumps along the way.

It is a interesting subject, climate, but what really gets to me is when a certain climatic event occurs and either side of the climate debate, claims there you are, doesn't that prove it.

There is a long way to go for humans to know everything about climate. Nature has a way of proving us all wrong.

Regards Errol 43
 
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