question regarding graded coins and toning

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braz

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Heya, so I have a P67 ultra cameo coin graded and slabbed by NGC.
More specifically, it's the 1988 Holey dollar and Dump. 1oz and 1/4 ounce.

The dollar looks grouse still by my eye, but the dump has clear toning around the edges and in parts just over the edge Queen side.
The toning is more reddish than yellow.
They were minty when i first bought them and i have never opened them, so surely not an oxidation issue?

I'm looking at flicking them off, but not sure how to word it without giving misinformation.
I have zero experience with this type of silver.

So here's the question ... if a coin has been graded as above, and it tones naturally does the grading still stand?
To put it another way, if I were to send the coin back to NGC in their own slab, would they grade differently?

Would appreciate any feedback.

Thankyou




edit: I don't even know if I have posted in the correct forum? that's how little I know about it ..
 
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That is very strange.I think when a coin is graded it should not tone in the sealed packaging.That is the whole idea of preserving the coin. If you wanted to send it back and re-grade it you could ask them to clean it or perhaps they would do it regardless.For milkspots you have to ask specifically to get rid of them.
 
Thanks Dragfem I agree it does seem a bit strange.
I have no intention of sending them back for regrading, I was more wondering about if in (the collectability side) does the grading stand?
I have never opened them, but I bought them in 2011 on the secondary market so i cannot guarantee the the original owner/owners popped it open.
I'll attempt to throw a couple of pics up tomoz.
 
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Somewhere perhaps some years ago I recall reading that the future-fate of a coin's natural toning attritube (that is final tone minus additional contributing factors introduced by environmental exposure - pretty much any stage outside of a strict vacuum) is sealed at mintage - which is why grading is recommended as close to release as possible, and also why the degree of any tone shouldnt impact the value or grade of the coin. The caveat being that you're very unlikely to have declared a perfect coin very long after mintage because initial tone is a grading factor and any small degree of toning will be henceforth recognised as a fault/non-perfect coin since inherant and evironmental toning factors are indistinguishable once detected.

If any of my above recollection looks or sounds inaccurate pls advise.
 
Provide good pictures and no one can complain. "Buy the coin, not the slab" is a pretty well established saying in the collecting community. Silver is expected to tone, not a lot you can do about it.

If yours is the only one on the market the seller will buy it. If there is another one on the market which is not toned, then you might have to lower your price in order to get some interest.

Good luck with the sale
 
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