PLEASE HELP ME - Fake Gold bars

Hello Folks

Its been a long time since I posted but I didn't know where else to turn to ask for advice

My moron of a father rang me late last night saying he has a friend in the Philippines that is going to sell him gold bars - he told me that they can't sell it blah blah and need an intermediary to sell the gold bars to the open market - my father being the gullible moron that he is thinks its a great deal - they only want 30k for 1kg gold

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Source: pic sent to me 1

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Source: pic sent to me 2


He then sent me 2 pics of the bars and when I saw them I laughed at him on the phone and said they were fake as F*$k - he wouldn't believe me and said the guy was an old friend and why would he cheat me blah blah - he also said that the guy was willing to let my father take the gold to an assayer in Malaysia before he had to give him any money - as soon as I herard all this red flags just went off in my head - Its all BS so I proceeded to google "sumatra gold bar scam" - I could not find much thou and the only place that listed anything was www.tseatc.com

My question is - are there any sites that any of you know of that I can fwd to my father to prove to him that they are fakes..

thank you in advance

Blip
 
They look like chocolate wrapped in fake gold foil.

There are only about 1 million phillipino miners that manage to sell gold outside of the Phillippines. I watched a documentary on that subject the other day. The only reason the miners don't sell to the government is because of a new tax.

And make no mistake, all gold mined in the Philippines is required by law to be sold to the government. So, your Father would likely be violating Philippino law and the the government could easily confiscate the gold from your Father.

If he has one functioning brain cell he would not touch that deal.
 
If they are real, then I'm severely colour blind...

I've seen chocolate bars which look closer to gold than those... sorry mate! :D
 
Tho its not real gold.............Even the colour of it can make men do stupid things! :rolleyes:

Best of luck to you in stopping him make a foolish mistake
 
If its from an old and trusted friend, I'll let him send me the item first. I'll assay it, sell it and send him the profits later.

Not sure if it's illegal to send billions out from phillipines, but I suppose it isn't illegal to receive billions in Australia or Malaysia.
 
The bar in picture 2 would weight about 12-15kg if it were real. Besides, serial numbers are stamped or laser engraved into bars - not cast into the side.

Also,

dccpa said:
And make no mistake, all gold mined in the Philippines is required by law to be sold to the government. So, your Father would likely be violating Philippino law and the the government could easily confiscate the gold from your Father.

This is dead correct. All gold in the Philippines is required by law to be sold to their central bank - he wouldn't be able to export it anyway even if it was legit, WHICH IT IS NOT.

Cannot emphasise enough how fake that is. It's even the wrong shape - crude mined gold would be in loaf ingots, not something that looks like a chopped up floorboard or 75mm steel.
 
Oh here we go...

http://www.tseatc.com/smf/index.php/topic,93.msg318.html#msg318

Gener is exactly right. That's what happened to ME. They actually showed me THREE GENUINE 6.2kg BURMA bars but when it came down to doing the actually transaction - THAT'S THE TIME THEY PULLED OUT A GUN AND ROBBED ME. They had brought three FAKE BRONZE bars that time also!

I don't trust them. The photos in your FIRST message looks not bad but when I saw the bar they had cut into three pieces I don't like the look of that bar at all.
TW
 
hey thanks for all that guys

the first time I looked at the pics I already knew they were fake but logical and well observed proof like yours GP is what I need to tell my stupid father that it is FAKE as HELL...

It's so weird for a son to be teaching his father about things - when I was young I used to look up to him for his business acumen but now I just think what a freakin moron... how the hell did he ever make the kind of money he made in the past?? It just boils down to luck and timing.
 
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=45161

Fake gold bar gang falls in Pangasinan
(The Philippine Star) Updated February 17, 2008 12:00 AM Comments (0) View comments

LINGAYEN, Pangasinan A syndicate selling fake gold bar and preys on businessmen and foreigners here was busted by the police.

The police reported that on Feb. 14 at the Capitol Compound here, members of the Special Operations Group (SOG) of the Panga-sinan Police Provincial Office led by Superintendent Rodelio Sam-son conducted an entrapment operation against the syndicate that led to the arrest of suspects Virgilio Marquez alias Ver, of Aritao, Nueva Vizcaya; Felipe Torio, of Barangay Balococ, Marietta Zaplan of Ba-rangay Pangapisan, Precilla Tripa, resident of Barangay Quibaol, all from this town and Roberto Loba-ton, of Sta. Maria, Bulacan who is believed to be the gang's leader.

Confiscated by the police from the suspects were one piece of fake gold bar weighing 74.6 kilograms with Burma markings estimated by gold appraises to be worth $73 million if the gold bar was genuine, six bank notes of Libya marked Banque Duliban, two counterfeit $100 federal reserve notes, two $1 million certificates, three cellular phones, one Toyota Hi-Ace van with license plates UEP 306 that was used by the gang in their illegal activities and assorted documents for their transactions.

Police investigators said David Israel Zemmertov, an Israeli businessman, and his wife, Cristina, both residents of Barangay Caloocan, Binma-ley, Panga-sinan appeared at the SOG office where the suspects were brought and positively identified the suspects who swindled the couple of P500,000 cash.

Charges of of robbery/extortion and illegal possession of counterfeit bank notes and fake gold bars will be filed against the suspects.
 
Wow. Thats really worrying news.

Hope your old fella is alright after this - thats fairly frightening news to read considering it sounds like he's been approached by those people!

RD
 
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