Phoney Pandas

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yennus

Well-Known Member
Silver Stacker
This sticky is devoted to the world of fake/counterfeit Pandas.

If you come across any phoney pandas, please list a picture of it here along side with a real one.

Thanks.

Some cultural education:
- pronounced "shaan zai" (shnzhi) [pinyin - shan1 zhai4];
Refers to Chinese imitation and pirated brands and goods, particularly electronics. Literally "mountain village" or "mountain stronghold", the term refers to the mountain stockades of regional warlords or bandits, far away from official control. "Shanzhai" can also be stretched to refer to people who are lookalikes, low-quality or improved goods, as well as things done in parody. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanzhai

Next time you come across someone selling a fake panda with some friends, you can utter the words "Shaan zai" between yourselves.
 
Fake 2007 1oz Silver Panda
[imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/675_fake2007panda.jpg]
675_fake2007panda.jpg
[/imgz] - Fake
[imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/675_2008agpanda.jpg]
675_2008agpanda.jpg
[/imgz] - Real
 
Recently saw this on ebay

1765_fake_5oz_1.jpg

1765_fake_5oz_2.jpg


Real image

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ehhee... a real 1/4oz 1982 Panda should look like this :)
[imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/675_img_0865.jpeg]
675_img_0865.jpeg
[/imgz] - Real
[imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/675_img_0867.jpeg]
675_img_0867.jpeg
[/imgz] - Real
61_1982_panda.jpg
- Fake
 
More junk - love the steps on the temple, more like a slippery slide!

[imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/1765_fake_110.jpg]
1765_fake_110.jpg
[/imgz] - Fake
[imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/675_img_0742.jpeg]
675_img_0742.jpeg
[/imgz] - Real
[imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/675_img_0743.jpeg]
675_img_0743.jpeg
[/imgz] - Real
 
Regarding post #3 the 5 oz 2010 panda. I saw this on ebay too. The listing said it just comes in a plastic case. Don't the 5 ouncers usually come in a box with a certificate? Looking at the coin itself I can't see the difference between the real one. Can someone point out how to spot this coin as a fake, what is different from the original??
 
silver kook said:
Regarding post #3 the 5 oz 2010 panda. I saw this on ebay too. The listing said it just comes in a plastic case. Don't the 5 ouncers usually come in a box with a certificate? Looking at the coin itself I can't see the difference between the real one. Can someone point out how to spot this coin as a fake, what is different from the original??
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I'll give you two:

Fur on the neck of left panda missing
Main panda on right snout not right shape, nose not defined as in the original

Kinda like those spot the difference pics - so many...

Trouble is, they can send you something totally different to the picture too :(
 
silver kook said:
Regarding post #3 the 5 oz 2010 panda. I saw this on ebay too. The listing said it just comes in a plastic case. Don't the 5 ouncers usually come in a box with a certificate? Looking at the coin itself I can't see the difference between the real one. Can someone point out how to spot this coin as a fake, what is different from the original??
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Among many defects, the noses on the Pandas are supposed to be mirrored, not frosted.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
 
Always an honor to have the Panda Expert grace us with his presence. Many thanks Panda Collector for your input.
 
yennus said:
Always an honor to have the Panda Expert grace us with his presence. Many thanks Panda Collector for your input.
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It is my pleasure to be here. This new Silver Stackers Panda Forum is fabulous.

Here is a larger photo of a genuine 2010 5 oz. silver Panda reverse. Note the mirrored surfaces on the noses and on the neck of the rear bear. The fur pattern isn't a match, either, although you might need to do a side-by-side comparison to know that.

2010_ag-50y-1.jpg

pandacollector.com:

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
 
Thanks heaps PandaCollector. I can't wait to receive the signed version of your Panda book from Maggie.

Many thanks!
 
The 5 oz fake Panda in post#3 has been relisted on Ebay, the exact same coin! Buyer must have sent it back, probably saw this thread!
 
mmm....shiney! said:
Fake panda
http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/753_117674780_e1d3a2ad94.jpg
Source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chi-liu/117674780/

Real panda
http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/753_panda-bear-d.jpg
Source: http://www.freewebs.com/endangeredanimals-pandas/

Fairly obvious if you ask me.
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Only one of these is a bear, but they are both named Pandas. It took modern genetics to confirm that Giant Pandas are indeed bears because they are not closely related to any other living species of bear. Many people felt that Giant Pandas could be members of the raccoon family but DNA testing disproved that idea. Red Pandas are the only members of their own family Ailurus and aren't closely related to Giant Pandas or any other animals.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
 
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