Petrol prices in Melbourne spike to $1.65ltr.

[goldpelican]

Try running 98 - I get a higher increase in economy as a percentage in my vehicle than the price difference over 91. It's cheaper per kilometre to use the more expensive fuel. Individual results may vary.

I always think of E10 and 91 as tight-arse fuel.

 

[spannermonkey]

Try running 98 - I get a higher increase in economy as a percentage in my vehicle than the price difference over 91. It's cheaper per kilometre to use the more expensive fuel. Individual results may vary.

I always think of E10 and 91 as tight-arse fuel.

I converted my mum when I borrowed her car ,when she went away on holidays
I left her a full tank of premium & didn't say anything
She rang me & asked what I did to the car :lol:
Nothing just put premium in it
She's still using it

European cars are designed to run on 98
Jap cars prefer to run 98
Even my old beetle used to love premium with the additive
Apparently Shell do have a 101 octane , but it's not available everywhere

 

[wrcmad]

Try running 98 - I get a higher increase in economy as a percentage in my vehicle than the price difference over 91. It's cheaper per kilometre to use the more expensive fuel. Individual results may vary.

I always think of E10 and 91 as tight-arse fuel.

+1.
I do this too - cheaper per km.

 

[Guest]

Someone in the know please correct me if I'm wrong but I have heard BP is by far the best fuel in Australia. I've been told its the only petrol that is refined here in oz and that they garentee the quality of their fuel. I here BP's 98 and 95 have helpful additives in them that clean your engine (no other company has these beneficial additives in their 95). I hear also that BP don't do discounted supermarket fuel because they don't import cheap crap the others get for peanuts.

Spanner or anyone else, is what I have been told true?

 

[wrcmad]

Someone in the know please correct me if I'm wrong but I have heard BP is by far the best fuel in Australia.

True.
BP is the only fuel manufacturer that guarantee their octane rating. I only ever used BP Ultimate in my beloved rexy.
Also, BP is the only company in Australia that produces their diesel fuel to the European standard of 50+ cetane -(Caltex 46 cetane, Shell 49 cetane. All independents use these two brands).
I know diesel mechanics who won't use anything else but BP diesel.

 

[Lunardragon]

Someone in the know please correct me if I'm wrong but I have heard BP is by far the best fuel in Australia.

True.
BP is the only fuel manufacturer that guarantee their octane rating. I only ever used BP Ultimate in my beloved rexy.
Also, BP is the only company in Australia that produces their diesel fuel to the European standard of 50+ cetane -(Caltex 46 cetane, Shell 49 cetane. All independents use these two brands).
I know diesel mechanics who won't use anything else but BP diesel.

So Shell VPower is aint good as BP ultimate?
Hmm if so, will change the station.

 

[boyracer]

Someone in the know please correct me if I'm wrong but I have heard BP is by far the best fuel in Australia.

True.
BP is the only fuel manufacturer that guarantee their octane rating. I only ever used BP Ultimate in my beloved rexy.
Also, BP is the only company in Australia that produces their diesel fuel to the European standard of 50+ cetane -(Caltex 46 cetane, Shell 49 cetane. All independents use these two brands).
I know diesel mechanics who won't use anything else but BP diesel.

So Shell VPower is aint good as BP ultimate?
Hmm if so, will change the station.

I used to run Shell VPower (or whatever it used to be called 7 years ago) in my Suzuki GSXR600r but it fouled the plugs constantly. Switched to Mobil and never had the problem. Not sure if cars have the same issue but I refuse to use the Shell version. Can't speak for the BP Ultimate but my new GSXR arrives tomorrow so guess I'll find out

 

[whitty]

There are a few issues usually associated with E10 and E85.

The ethanol in the fuel is said to eat some fuel lines and block fuel filters but a lot of new cars are designed to work with up to E85 so will take this into account.

Ethanol burns cleaner and can break down carbon deposits inside the engine making the car run a bit rough until it's cleaned up.

Ethanol contains less energy per litre than petrol but it also has a higher octane equivalent meaning it resists pinging and can run a higher compression. If an engine is not tuned to run on the ethanol blend then it won't take advantage of the good properties and will just chew more juice negating the savings of using ethanol.

It's a bit like LPG which if used in a dedicated setup can run higher compression than ULP which will make it more efficient but in the common dual fuel conversions it's a compromise between the 2.

 

[TheEnd]

Ye and how many of those E85 Comadores have Holden sold.....Not many.....People do not see the savings in it....and there ar'nt many E85 pumps around either.

 

[petey]

I've seen some impressive figures come out of E85 tuned cars. Economy is ridiculous though - worst I heard was a race tuned car doing country km's getting 32L/100km. :lol:

 

[wrcmad]

You need to burn 1.4 litres of ethanol to get the same energy you would by burning 1 litre of petroleum. Seems at current prices ethanol is merely another token environmental gesture without substance.

 

[whitty]

Ye and how many of those E85 Comadores have Holden sold.....Not many.....People do not see the savings in it....and there ar'nt many E85 pumps around either.

Cars aren't sold to run only on E85. If the commodores are E85 compatible then I don't expect they would sell one that isn't E85 compatible. It's a matter of the computer being able to tune on the fly based on the fuel being used and the fuel system being able to supply the extra fuel volume needed.

 

[TheEnd]

Oh well Holden are going to close soon anyways it seems....we don't need their products anymore.

 

[Mjduzane]

Wow and to think that I'm freaking out about gas being $0.99 per liter in america! .99 is ridiculous here..Before obama took office in 2008 gas was $0.39 per liter

 

[Shaddam IV]

You need to burn 1.4 litres of ethanol to get the same energy you would by burning 1 litre of petroleum. Seems at current prices ethanol is merely another token environmental gesture without substance.

It's useful for displacing food crops with sugar cane and increasing food prices. This creates a tidy profit for Goldman and the other merchant banks that trade in misery derivatives.

 

[TheEnd]

Wow and to think that I'm freaking out about gas being $0.99 per liter in america! .99 is ridiculous here..Before obama took office in 2008 gas was $0.39 per liter

Ye and you guys in the U.S 'still' have cheap cheap fuel even at 99c.....try $1.65 man!

 

[bordsilver]

Aren't the European prices even higher again?

 

[Nugget]

I was told once by a very close friend

'If you cant win them, join them!'

Meaning I shall buy their company shares, ie coles, wolies, caltex, banks?

What you guys think?

Australia is a captured market.

There are no guarantees that owning those shares will see you OK as there are many layers of ownership / protection / payoffs. Think of the board of directors paying themselves squilions whilst paying the shareholders SWFA.

 

[Roswell Crash Survivor]

Everyone seems to focus on the price of UL91/98 gasoline because it hits them 'at the pump'.

They seem to forget the wholesale cost of diesel fuel hits their hip pocket in every other purchase. Cost of land transport is built into the price of every consumer good/service.

The consumption of diesel fuel in the resource sector is nothing to sniff at either.

 

[Willow]

The Caltex refinery at Kurnell has not closed yet.
There is not a BP Refinery in Sydney to supply fuel to their stations,,,,Where do you think it comes from?
I have heard rumbling(not yet confirmed) that Caltex can not yet confirm adequate supply and storage of PULP(premium unleaded) to their Sydney facility after they stop refining. That will be a very interesting pickle for them(shareholders) and Sydney(fuel supply/price).