Perth Mint Holey Dollar & Dump

Captain Kookaburra said:
You can argue that the standard dragon has some numismatic value. But the privvy is just a pretty lump of silver. If you want to buy some at inflated prices thats merely a poor investment choice (imo).
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Seems a strange thing to say. I'm pretty sure Perth Mint would consider the privy to be slightly numismatic considering they made it with lower mintage.

So much confusion.

Bullion = Numismatic & Numismatic = Bullion most of the time.
 
anonmiss said:
The PROBLEM is that this appeares to be the only silver coin in the Jan 3rd release that does not indicate the actual silver weight in the first two lines of the description on the Perth Mint home page.
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Are we looking at the same website? I see this on the homepage of the Perth Mint coin website:

5_pmholeydollarbanner.jpg
 
Captain Kookaburra said:
Dragon privvy is a bullion coin. Would not consider it a numismatic in any way.

You can argue that the standard dragon has some numismatic value. But the privvy is just a pretty lump of silver. If you want to buy some at inflated prices thats merely a poor investment choice (imo).
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but its still a dragon,no matter what the smart guys say :)
 
goldpelican said:
anonmiss said:
The PROBLEM is that this appeares to be the only silver coin in the Jan 3rd release that does not indicate the actual silver weight in the first two lines of the description on the Perth Mint home page.
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Are we looking at the same website? I see this on the homepage of the Perth Mint coin website:

http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/5_pmholeydollarbanner.jpg
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I'm looking at the descriptions under the small boxes and the descriptions on the page that you get when you click on the item.
Like this page

http://www.perthmint.com.au/catalog...llar-and-dump-2013-silver-proof-coin-set.aspx

vs this page

http://www.perthmint.com.au/catalogue/forever-love-2013-halfoz-silver-proof-coin.aspx

Spot the difference GP? One has no mention of weight the other does. Marketing over site perhaps?
 
SilverSale said:
Captain Kookaburra said:
You can argue that the standard dragon has some numismatic value. But the privvy is just a pretty lump of silver. If you want to buy some at inflated prices thats merely a poor investment choice (imo).
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Seems a strange thing to say. I'm pretty sure Perth Mint would consider the privy to be slightly numismatic considering they made it with lower mintage.

So much confusion.

Bullion = Numismatic & Numismatic = Bullion most of the time.
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No confusion.

Bullion=Bullion and Numi=Overpriced. (Always)

GST is the clue. (*Palladium Bullion is the exception here)
 
anonmiss said:
Spot the difference GP? One has no mention of weight the other does. Marketing over site perhaps?
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I can see there's no mention of "1oz" on that page - but given it's prominent in the advertising feature image I copied from the home page of the website, it would simply be an oversight (and knowing how the mint frequents this website, one I bet gets corrected in the coming week). I think we're looking too hard for conspiracies.
 
its a collector coin period, it is what it is, buy it or dont, its not bullion that much is clear, purely a numismatic/historical piece..

i dont really know about the history of this coin, i think its more of an aussie piece

looks interesting though, i wont be a buyer but it looks better than the other releases this month
 
yeah the mint makes listing mistakes every once in a while, when the first "birds of australia" coin came out a few months back it was listed as 1oz, but the mints usually very good about these things, but who doesnt goto the spec page for every coin theyre going to buy anyways?
goldpelican said:
anonmiss said:
Spot the difference GP? One has no mention of weight the other does. Marketing over site perhaps?
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I can see there's no mention of "1oz" on that page - but given it's prominent in the advertising feature image I copied from the home page of the website, it would simply be an oversight (and knowing how the mint frequents this website, one I bet gets corrected in the coming week). I think we're looking too hard for conspiracies.
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I hope the mint does change the description page, it would suck if someone was caught out because they were seeing the 1998-90 release and drawing the wrong conclusion about the coins weight.
I don't think theres a conspiracey here as such, just more slackness on the part of the Perth Mint at protecting their brand reputation. (which has taken a bit of hammering in the last 12 months)
 
27.0674 grams and would contain .7797 of an ounce of silver that's for the 1803 Spanish dollar 8 reale

i don't see why all the drama its not the real thing its a modern copy we all know that so buy if you like and dont if you dont.

me still looking for a reale one :D now that would be something to have.

modern copy not for me.
 
Re the bullion debate, this is what the Perth Mint have on their blog
Bullion coins are made for the purpose of investing in precious metals. They are mass produced to keep the price as close to 'spot' as possible. As a result, the finish on many bullion coins issued worldwide is uniform with no distinctively polished or frosted areas.

The Perth Mint takes a different approach. Our bullion coins feature a frosted table and a shiny design (the opposite way round to proof issues). The quality of each strike means that our bullion coins are sometimes referred to as "reverse proofs". Indeed, we would claim they have the best quality bullion finish in the world.
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Src: http://blog.perthmint.com.au/2012/03/08/proof-bullion-and-specimen-–-what’s-the-difference-2/
 
Back on topic though.... I'm a big fan of the holey dollar and dump. Love the history of them, and i think this release is a cool way to commemorate them. Probably wont buy it myself, but i think it'd be a cool addition for those who are interested in the history of it all, as I think obtaining an original version would be way out of most peoples grasp... haha
 
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