Next Chinese Ban will be wool

Personally, I think China is avoiding what happened to the USA. The USA did not diversify their suppliers and are suffering from the consequences. No business should depend on a single supplier for most of their supplies.

The primary problem Australia faces is a strong currency. For manufacturing and IT industries to develop, the AUD must be stable. If an embargo can weaken the AUD, it is a good embargo.

20 years from today, almost all manufacturing will be done by robots, even services can be done by robots. But robots can't produce iron ore and uranium, nor can it create farmland out of wasteland.

Australia holds the final trump card. Look 20-30 years into the future.

Maybe 100-200 years in the future, we'll have Iondrive and warpdrives, and space mining will be economical, but that's for the future generation. :D
 
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Ipv6Ready said:
Did you also say that for German, Japanese and Koreans brands as you grew up or the anti chinese is it extra potent because China will become the biggest economy?

What of Indian products in the next 25 to 50 years, they will be number two economy surpassing USA too.

In a few years lots of biggest companies will be Chinese, there is no denying that, in a free market.
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I won't speak for others but it has nothing to do with them being the biggest economy but rather the raft of political issues, such as expanding into South China Seas, Hong Kong, annexation of Tibet, appalling treatment of minorities and many more. There's also their attempt at destroying our economy.

I started not buying chinese products a couple of years ago but I have become much more militant about it this year.
 
small consumer market would not make a ding sound. the domestic billion can take in so much more, 100 times wow
 
The Indian economy is doing very well. in fact, it's probably the only domestic economy in the world that is still growing in 2020. Not referring to the export sector. Their problem is the education system and work culture. Once there's proper education, there's no reason why the Indians in India can't be as productive as those living outside of India. Hence, the potential is huge.

Ipv6Ready said:
What of Indian products in the next 25 to 50 years, they will be number two economy surpassing USA too.
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precious roar said:
I won't speak for others but it has nothing to do with them being the biggest economy but rather the raft of political issues, such as expanding into South China Seas, Hong Kong, annexation of Tibet, appalling treatment of minorities and many more. There's also their attempt at destroying our economy.

I started not buying chinese products a couple of years ago but I have become much more militant about it this year.
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I'm of the view, let China learn from thier own experiences, if they kill a few million China is still way ahead.

Learn about the atrocities, we were part of as the western powers.

What the Chinese are doing in Uyghur, HK, Tibet etc, pales in consideration to what we did in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya and Iran in the past few decades.

As for attempting to destroy Australian economy, we threw the first punch and now calling foul as we get pelted lol.

Finally China didn't steal a single Australian job, Australians moved the factory on purpose to make more money.
 
Ipv6Ready said:
I'm of the view, let China learn from thier own experiences, if they kill a few million China is still way ahead.

Learn about the atrocities, we were part of as the western powers.

What the Chinese are doing in Uyghur, HK, Tibet etc, pales in consideration to what we did in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya and Iran in the past few decades.

As for attempting to destroy Australian economy, we threw the first punch and now calling foul as we get pelted lol.

Finally China didn't steal a single Australian job, Australians moved the factory on purpose to make more money.
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Nice try. "We" vs China CCP. "We" as in Australia did nothing in comparison to what China is doing in HK etc. Your statement is a false analogy. You're idolising a totalitarian communist regime. Alor 2.0.
 
Chinese regimes have the title of the most murderous in the history of humanity, they don't learn from their own experiences because the sum of the parts is more important than the individuals that make those parts.

Unfortunately Rudolph Rummel died some years ago and I'm not sure if anyone is updating his research, the University of Hawaii keeps his work as an archive for us to access. Chinese regimes in their many forms are responsible for the murder of over 90 000 000 people in the 20thC, that's more than 3 x the population of Australia. It's a shameful historical narrative of the failure of the most widespread Asian culture that considers political power pre-eminent to individual liberty. Disgraceful. Murderous arseholes.

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https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

China is long overdue its enlightenment, it's 500 years behind the West. So much for its delusions of superiority. Still in the dark ages.
 
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mmm....shiney! said:
Chinese regimes have the title of the most murderous in the history of humanity, they don't learn from their own experiences because the sum of the parts is more important than the individuals that make those parts.

Unfortunately Rudolph Rummel died some years ago and I'm not sure if anyone is updating his research, the University of Hawaii keeps his work as an archive for us to access. Chinese regimes in their many forms are responsible for the murder of over 90 000 000 people in the 20thC, that's more than 3 x the population of Australia. It's a shameful historical narrative of the failure of the most widespread Asian culture that considers political power pre-eminent to individual liberty. Disgraceful. Murderous arseholes.

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https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

China is long overdue its enlightenment, it's 500 years behind the West. So much for its delusions of superiority. Still in the dark ages.
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you never knew the joker can use China to kill off the west, as teaching them a lesson. the chess pieces just got burried, even the blood cried out, it's set on mute, not hear anything on the news. they fear being killed to report
 
mmm....shiney! said:
History tells us that if someone is going to be murdered by their own government, then there's a 35% chance it'll be someone Chinese.
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just by talking, Trump ...people life flew away in Capitol Hill, no no Chinese there. they are later called domestic terrorist. wonderful to watch this special channel Tv
 
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Nice try.
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IP6 isn't totally wrong, there's money to be made, but it's not free lunch. Chinese saying, when you want to catch a big fish, you put out a long line (with good bait). As the fish, you must nibble around the bait without being hooked. You can be lucky once or twice, but finally you will still be caught. :D

This is what Australia is trying to do, to reap the benefits (have an easy meal of bait) and risk paying the ultimate price. It's a dangerous game to play.

So who is at fault here? The fisherman or the greedy fish?
 
mmm....shiney! said:
Chinese regimes have the title of the most murderous in the history of humanity, they don't learn from their own experiences because the sum of the parts is more important than the individuals that make those parts.

Unfortunately Rudolph Rummel died some years ago and I'm not sure if anyone is updating his research, the University of Hawaii keeps his work as an archive for us to access. Chinese regimes in their many forms are responsible for the murder of over 90 000 000 people in the 20thC, that's more than 3 x the population of Australia. It's a shameful historical narrative of the failure of the most widespread Asian culture that considers political power pre-eminent to individual liberty. Disgraceful. Murderous arseholes.

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https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

China is long overdue its enlightenment, it's 500 years behind the West. So much for its delusions of superiority. Still in the dark ages.
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Doesnt include what we did in tthe middle east in afganistan, are those people not worthy to be invluded?
 
mmm....shiney! said:
GLOBALink. :cool:

Here's another one of their publications. Happy Uygurs! Lots of happy Uygurs in Central China.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-03/08/c_139794909.htm
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Personally I don't care what chinese do to uigurs nor do i personally care what we did to Aborigines hunting them like foxes or invading muslims as a coalition of willing etc.

End of the day are our hands so pristine, in balance we can point the fingers at China without acknowledging what we did. Matbe what we did in our past is ok, because we are superior.

We commit atrocities and learned from it, why can't the Chinese?
 
Ipv6Ready said:
Doesnt include what we did in tthe middle east in afganistan, are those people not worthy to be invluded?
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You were trying to argue that the Chinese have to learn from experience. I pointed out that they have a long history of murdering people, probably because they are centuries behind the West when it comes to liberty.

As far as the Middle-East/Asian conflicts go the lowest figure in the table I attached is 729 000 murders committed in the 20th C by Indonesia. Now (a) the conflicts you mentioned are still ongoing and (b) obviously during the 20thC less than 729 000 were murdered in those conflicts. If you do want a modern conflict on foreign soil then the US killed 6 000 in the Vietnam War. Which is still less than what the Nth Vietnamese, the Sth Vietnamese, the Cambodians and the French killed. And if you do want mention those people in the middle-east or Afghanistan, Saddam Hussein was responsible for the deaths of about 600 000 people.

https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/LESSER.HTM
 
Ipv6Ready said:
Personally I don't care what chinese do to uigurs
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It's called empathy. A quality that sets civilised man apart from those barbarians that lived from the time we climbed out of the trees up until the Enlightenment. China hasn't had its Enlightenment yet.

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We commit atrocities and learned from it, why can't the Chinese?
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Because successive Chinese national governments have shown themselves to be arseholes. And yes, we can rightly claim moral superiority. The statistics and laws of the land prove it.
 
Do you think "China" will have their own enlightenment or do you think their killing is more endemic in their system of power? Saving face is another huge issue, you said it yourself they have killed more than most.
 
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