Couldn't agree more House. I had a bundle of 2011's and 2012's, including privy's in the mix, and sold them all over a year ago. I did okay, but lost some of the premium of course. They were just horribly ladened with spots...almost as bad as maples...and I'm totally serious. I still have a few of the 2012's privy's and gilded and a few colored elephants...some are okay, some do have spots, and I will unload when spot gets a bit higher...because I doubt I'll get much more over spot. Truly, these coins suck...but they are beautiful right off the press. I'd rank maples, philharmonic, and these suckers some of the worst when it comes to quality (white spots).