NASA study: industrial civilization could collapse

Rinchin said:
TreasureHunter said:
They say "industrial civilization", not "post-industrial", which I find a bit weird. I thought the West was living in "post-industrialism" :/
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I would read that the industrial based economies are also likely to crash. Post-industrial would be the countries that derive their "wealth" from financial services etc. Writing's on the wall for these guys - industrial civilizations are just the next domino since its the post-industrial countries that fund the industrials.

All for the better I think. Sustenance economy please.
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Post-industrialism is unsustainable, because industries are vital.

The West has made a big mistake by de-industrializing itself so heavily.
 
Peter said:
bound to happen sooner or later.
better sooner so there is more chance of survival
and sustainable adjustment .
The longer things continue as they hav been going, the worse the crash.
People ignore things till it's too late.
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True. And if we are carefully watching the trends, we're in for a tremendous crash!
 
"True. And if we are carefully watching the trends, we're in for a tremendous crash!"


I am even more pessimistic, i believe we are in for a "new dark age".


OC
 
Ho Hum

NASA Statement on Sustainability Study

The following is a statement from NASA regarding erroneous media reports crediting the agency with an academic paper on population and societal impacts.


"A soon-to-be published research paper 'Human and Nature Dynamics (HANDY): Modeling Inequality and Use of Resources in the Collapse or Sustainability of Societies' by University of Maryland researchers Safa Motesharrei and Eugenia Kalnay, and University of Minnesota's Jorge Rivas was not solicited, directed or reviewed by NASA. It is an independent study by the university researchers utilizing research tools developed for a separate NASA activity.

"As is the case with all independent research, the views and conclusions in the paper are those of the authors alone. NASA does not endorse the paper or its conclusions."
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http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/march/nasa-statement-on-sustainability-study/#.UzC6NldafbA
 
The good news reported last week in The Age March 17, 2014 is other NASA studies like Planet X probably does not exist. Why major newspaper syndicates would publish an article on something that probably doesn't exist must be reassuring.


Planet X myth debunked
"The outer solar system probably does not contain a large gas giant planet ('Planet X'), or a small, companion star ('Nemesis')," concluded University of Pennsylvania astronomer Kevin Luhman, who directed the study using NASA's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) telescope."

"Luhman doesn't rule out the possibility that a planet is lurking somewhere in the asteroid belt. It would be hard to find if it were closely aligned with a bright star that blinds the telescope or were much smaller than had been theorised. But after this latest survey, Luhman said the odds of finding one are very unlikely: "That is like a one in a hundred chance."

The hunt for Planet X and Nemesis may have turned up empty, but the study did uncover 3525 stars and brown dwarfs celestial objects whose mass puts them between a star and a large planet within 500 light years of the sun."

1 in a 100 chance ...........

More at http://www.theage.com.au/technology/sci-tech/planet-x-myth-debunked-20140317-34weh.html
 
Maybe Jeremy Grantham has read the same report.

'Very painful': World heading for bust 'unlike any other', says Jeremy Grantham

http://www.smh.com.au/business/mark...ther-says-jeremy-grantham-20140325-35f34.html

Oh yeh and of course NASA has come out and said they do not endorse the paper or its conclusions, can't have a respected Govt dept spreading doom and gloom, things might just get out of hand and those lazy plebs might decide to to not play the game anymore.
 
Nasa heh.
What do they know?
Sometime ago the cam on their Mars vehicle saw a stone that wasn't there on an earlier pic.
It took them months to wonder about.
They they discovered that their vehicle stumped the stone to that new location.
Nasa (read: tax paid) research!
Nice busykeeping on some1 elses back! :D
 
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