My Fake Panda Picture

[mtforpar]

Wowza Mtforpar. It's why I stay away from ordering on eBay.By the way, are you a golfer?

Yes, I am a golfer.

The biggest challenge I find with Pandas is not determining whether a coin is a fake when one has the real thing to compare it to, It is determining whether a coin is a fake when you are only holding that single coin in your hand and it is sealed. Like walking a coin show for instance. Weight and dimensions are the easiest way to spot one quickly...Most fakes (not all) do not weigh correctly. Of course, on eBay you cannot weigh or measure it. Then the coin arrives sealed so one does not want to break the seal as to diminish the investment so there is sits in your collection ....a fake coin. When if you just weighed and measured it you would know right away it was fake.

Another quick tip is to know the edge reeding style of the coin in question. I think after 2001 all reeds are angular so straight reeds are a quick fake tip off.

If you a buying deals on Pandas from Poland, the Czech Republic, China and the like there is a great chance you are buying fake coins.

The best advice I can offer is to look at lots of the real thing. Know what it looks like. Once you have handled enough of the real thing your spidey senses will tingle when in the presence of a fake. Then the challenge is to listen to them and not talk yourself out of believing your intuition.

 

[1ozTrOy]

One thing ive always notice is the nose on the fake one are not polished. They should be same as the mirror finished background.
So I will have to agree that the 2005 panda imo is a definite fake.

These fake ones are becoming really really good fake. Hopefully they dont start polishing the noses.

 

[KeepOnTrying!]

One thing ive always notice is the nose on the fake one are not polished. They should be same as the mirror finished background.
So I will have to agree that the 2005 panda imo is a definite fake.

These fake ones are becoming really really good fake. Hopefully they dont start polishing the noses.

And hope they don't start using .999 silver for the fake coins!

 

[andrewlee10]

One thing ive always notice is the nose on the fake one are not polished. They should be same as the mirror finished background.
So I will have to agree that the 2005 panda imo is a definite fake.

These fake ones are becoming really really good fake. Hopefully they dont start polishing the noses.

And hope they don't start using .999 silver for the fake coins!

there are many good fake in .999 and even slab by NGC. LMAO

 

[KeepOnTrying!]

One thing ive always notice is the nose on the fake one are not polished. They should be same as the mirror finished background.
So I will have to agree that the 2005 panda imo is a definite fake.

These fake ones are becoming really really good fake. Hopefully they dont start polishing the noses.

And hope they don't start using .999 silver for the fake coins!

there are many good fake in .999 and even slab by NGC. LMAO

Wow. So we are already there!

 

[Razz]

basterds

 

[picturefun]

the temple is way off ..but these fakes are getting better all the time ,A post above talks about slabs being faked ,the thing is you can verify any cert # on the NGC website before you buy ,and not that that is 100% ,BUT IF NGC verifies the slab on there website and it turns out to be fake you have a 100% guarantee and they pay on it ,as I had a friend get an expensive gold coin get past the graders he sent it to NGC and within 14 days money in the mail (7,000USD).
I AM NOT CHINESE BASHING HERE: go on US ebay low feedback Chinese sellers, 95% of panda,s on e bay are fakes ,they have not perfected the seal patterns on the OMP yet ,so get Peter Anthony,s book and study them he has very descriptive pictures of the seals and each coin list the mint or mints in which it was produced.......... or post pictures here or on CCF, folks that know are glad to help.
and most of all if you see a $1200 1984 panda in OMP being auctioned off for 75 usd please listen to the bells going of in your head these dudes selling these fakes are making boatloads of money and e bay is doing nothing about it if they sell 20 and 2 people complain they just refund the complainers they are selling pcs of tin that cost them $3 usd for 30 or 40 and sometimes $50 and they are selling lots of them !! so as long as they promptly refund the 10% E bay is not going to do nothing as they are getting paid there is no less than 5 of these sellers currently on e bay.

If people want to blame, they should blame Ebay to provide the Platform for those faked ones sold. And I personally reported a couple, never heard anything back from Ebay. Ebay just want to make commission. nothing else is on their mind.

By the way, China has 1.4 BILLION CHINESE + 50 Million Overseas Chinese!! For every Chinese who sell fakes on Ebay, there are 10+ who sell the REAL ones!

There are enough reliable dealers in the U.S. who sell REAL panda coins at very reasonable price, so those who are willing to take the chance, and thought they got a bargain, are asking for trouble themselves voluntarily.

 

[picturefun]

http://www.ebay.de/itm/CHINA-CINA-2...D-VERY-RARE-/400915948512?hash=item5d5873e3e0
so this one is a fake too

I think this one is real, comparing with this real picture. even the plastic seal edge has the same patterns

 

[picturefun]

http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/11089_pand.jpg
http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/11089_pand_2.jpg

http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/11089_ok.jpg

i have my doubt ab out this panda but iam not shure is there a experienced eye who can take a look thx
i compared it with some fakes on ebay and compared it to a ncg ms70
the nails of the left arm of the big panda looks a lump by the fakes with the ngc ms 70 and others (real ones) the nails are countable and more detailed
also the plastic foil seems off compared to others on the bay but maybe its just my imagination .

The picture at the top is NOT big and clear enough to compare.