Milk spot removal from a rare coin?

Skyrocket

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I have a rare silver coin with a small milk spot on it that I would like to see removed but I do not know if it is worth taking the risk and causing more damage in the process of trying to remove it. Has anyone had success using any of these 3 techniques below? And is it worth taking the risk?


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Beyond said:
99% cant remove it
too more risk
be carefully

Does that mean 99% cannot be removed?

It's a tiny milk spot and I would love to see it gone. :(

Here look, is it possible to remove this or is it too risky?


Look at 6 o'oclock. (there is nothing there at 12 o'oclock, it perfect there)


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Any suggestions?
 
Don't think you can do anything about that mate. Value is surely impacted unfortunately.
 
No skyrocket. It must stay. If you try to clean it, you will destroy any numi value there is in that rare coin. Just tuck it away, and hope one day that one of the grading agencies come up with a solution. But do not mess with it!

If it is that rare, maybe send it in to NCS to help mitigate the spreading of spots.
 
barsenault, thanks! I never thought of that. Wait till they come up with a solution to remove milk spots with no damage.

Be good to remove that tiny milk spot now though :/

I uploaded different pic of it now.


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Yeah I see it. Sucks. But don't fiddle with it. If it were a maple, I'd say go for it. But anything with a numi value, don't do it. If you did, and wanted to send it in to NGC, they wouldn't even give it a grade, they would say, 'CLEANED.' Just hope for the best that some smart dude out there in this community comes up with a way, without impacting the quality.
 
The best you can do if it is truly a valuable coin is "try" to have it "conserved"


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Thanks but it's not worth having that done to this coin. It's one of 88 minted RA coins. It's rare but not that valuable.
 
I tried ALL the methods I could find on the internet to remove milk spots. ALL of them left some tell-tale signs after the fact. The techniques that "removed" the spot left a different kind of "spot" that could be seen in contrast to the rest of the fields. Looking at the coin with a loop and it was very obvious to see.

Since most modern mint coins now spot (some worse than others), I assume the mints hope stackers/collectors eventually get used to them over time, instead of trying to find ways to keep the coins they produce milk spot free. We are not talking rocket science here.

I find it completely unbelievable that they can't stop the spots. Just go back to whatever way it was the coins were minted 10 years ago or so. Before that, I don't remember seeing milk spots. I know there had to be some, but they had to be very rare because none of my coins before that time have spots- except one sheet of 1989 Maples that have what appear to be milk spots, but they are not quite the same color and much smaller and less obvious than what you see now. I picked up some spotted 2015 Britannias I got cheap the other day and much of the obverse on one has a light creme-colored smudge with an obvious fingerprint on part of it. Yet it all seems to be sub-surface or rather can't be felt on the coin nor removed.

Remember when people were concerned about toning on coins/rounds/bars, etc? Now, that is nothing compared to milk spots.

I still believe there is a slight chance the spots are already embedded somehow into the blanks these mints purchases, so perhaps it is not the mints' fault per se. But they are the ones who bear ALL the responsibility since they are the ones putting the finished coins into commerce and they don't seem to do anything to fix the situation, all these years later.

Just my opinion.

Jim
 
just let it be. Milk spots are so common these days I believe in near future collectors will just ignore milk spots entirely.
 
yrh, I agree with you. If there is a mintage of say 500 of X medal or coin, and there are only 5 PF70's, 20 PF69's, etc...and they all have spots...what's a collector to do? I got a steal on a rare PF69 1988 HK Expo Panda Medal...it has a tiny spot, and folks treated it like the plague. I took as it an opportunity. We'll see in time who was right. :-))
 
Thanks, I might just not worry about it for now then, especially when I don't intend on selling it anytime soon, and as you both pointed out who knows what the future holds. :/
 
I fell ya pain skyrocket I to have a ra proof with a few tiny milk spots but they are very small :(
 
barsenault said:
No skyrocket. It must stay. If you try to clean it, you will destroy any numi value there is in that rare coin. Just tuck it away, and hope one day that one of the grading agencies come up with a solution. But do not mess with it!

If it is that rare, maybe send it in to NCS to help mitigate the spreading of spots.



Yes, what he said is the advice I'd give too.



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Ya if its not that valuable then live with it as others have said....but personally I wouldn't by a coin with any kind of spots on it regardless of mintage. Unless its bullion at bullion prices I guess.
 
barsenault said:
If it is that rare, maybe send it in to NCS to help mitigate the spreading of spots.


That point is important. When a silver coin is properly conserved, it will be much less likely to further develop milk spots (nearly eliminating the potential for milk spot development when the coin is then also stored properly)....so conserving can be a preventative measure as well as a restorative measure.



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I don't think there is any "conservation" techniques for removing milk spots. Whether they can prevent new spots showing up after the fact I don't know. My coins that milk spotted after I bought them (some slabbed maple varieties) all spotted within a certain amount of time. After a certain passage of time if the coin is not spotted it probably won't spot later. I can't say for sure how long it takes, but I am guessing 1-3 years after the coin is made.

Just my opinion.

Jim
 
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