I think soon when the CBDC come out we will have other things to worry about.
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Hopefully the sheeple will reject them and burn a bunch of cities but who knows.
The dollar is hitting resistance at the h and s neckline. Not looking good for the ole fed reserve note.
Seems really quiet on here with silver making such good moves. What gives?
Nuthin gives, the monkey hammeres have taken an early lunch break that's why silver has shot up.
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I don't see any correlation between rates and gold.
Maybe gold price is rising as rates rise?
Gold was $1200 with the easy money and has only gone up.
The next wave of inflation is still on its way too.
Maybe gold price is rising as rates rise?
Gold was $1200 with the easy money and has only gone up.
The next wave of inflation is still on its way too.
Silver will have lots of down days like today as it rises to new levels but it can't go up every day.
Everyone needs to zoom out.
Everyone needs to zoom out.
You guys might all get coal in your stockings this Christmas!
There won't be any meaningful rises in the POG until they are forced to cut rates due to deteriorating economic conditions or more bank failures.
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Gold and silver have already broken out of the channel and its already happening. PMs don't need rates to drop with all the deficit spending going on. It's the fuel on the fire.
There are so many collisions waiting to happen at once the environment is ripe for a black swan or two.
There's nothing special about the 2k level that will stop anything besides the mental aspect of crossing over. It's just another number and someday will be a memory.
There are so many collisions waiting to happen at once the environment is ripe for a black swan or two.
There's nothing special about the 2k level that will stop anything besides the mental aspect of crossing over. It's just another number and someday will be a memory.
Monthly
Inverted head and shoulders on the weekly just before it broke the channel.
They have some influence on price but they don't control it. Big difference.
Will the 4th top in gold will be the record breaker as many say it will?
Looks like silver is already preparing.
Looks like silver is already preparing.
If i plot X against Y... i can see the trend of the value of X.
if X is a real measure of "value", and "value" is then divided into parts and "symmetry broken", left to float across a pool of floating "currencies"...
then my comparison Y cannot properly be performed.. Value, as a floor turns into a "parallel universe" of fluctuating ocean waves...
the universe of all the other comparative assets in the heavens could expand, or contract...
relative to those comparative ocean waves, the comparison is.. moot. worthless.
Short term at least... those charts become useful for only triggering fear and greed, (and false AI pattern matching.)
we know the ocean waves of currency are crashing but.. .in comparison amoung themselves they only fluctuate.
I propose that: the currencies market Manipulates patterns into visibility for your trading decisions.
the fluctuation of currencies against each other MUST:
1: provide a suitable volatility to be a competitor of investor wealth.. so it must be ever changing.
2: it must conciel its own patterns of predictability.
3: it should conciel the predictable patterns of all other assets measured against each individual part. otherwise the cycles of the other assets would be exploited...
in order to maintain its value to society.
WHY?
take cocoa at the moment.
if that were a PERFECTLY predictable scenario then we would anticipate the future, and change the course of events to mitigate the problems that caused the problem that lead to increase of value.
any unfairly manipulated / up-traded investment would also be instantly visible.
some rich-investment into the product/assett would certainly be seen as greed and the value of the possession returned to fair value since "100 people" can only eat "100 people units" of cocoa...
if you but 1 years supply of cocoa then:
you are eating cocoa for 1 year and an not consume more.
owning more is simply asking to exploit others (usery) to obtain it..
its easier for those that know what the currency fluctuations are going to do, to manipulate the ownership of the other items in the market to ensure that those remain outside the hands of waste and rot.
Change Cocoa to Kilojoules for global human energy consumption needs, and look at the relative fluctuating waves of the food basket asserts... people people can pivot their required consumption requirements across those too...
youd be better off making up our own basket of things you want / need...
and compare gold and silver to that.
because you honestly, dont, want to end up with the medium of exchange....
as a medium of exchange.. it IS.. the variable denominator.
its not a charity drive to give value to people who hold it...
its the govs "facilitation of trade and fractional basis to lubricate the difference between the value of things..
overall.. THAT.. isnt EVER going to be a devise used to enact charity or welfare for the holders of it..
plus, taxes and capital gains are measured by it.
cant steal the "wealth created by time" if you cant prove or people dont believe the value of something has actually increased now can you?...
im totally bullish for silver and gold...
but i dont want currencies at all...
so id rather never trade out for them...
if they are worthless to me...
then that price is also.. meaningless.
everything is going crazy in the world and TBH...
wealthy people can only WASTE more.
i havent seen a 40,000 kilogram rich person who eats fields of cows, bananas, wheet and drinks 1000 liters of water a day for a while.
so im assuming owning all of that is really more of a responsibility not to blow it on corruption.
better use of the excess is:
use excess wter to grow more BLAH.
use excess BLAH to create more of the "desired" goods...
suddenly the waste is transformed again into great things...
sacrifice it on a mountaintop and the birds will eat it and feed the big preditors that kill the weak cows so that the strong cows breed muscle and the animal world doesnt turn into deformed useless fat blob trees that cant even walk...
fluctuations of corruption and waste is the real problem.
efficiency breeds growth.
deficiency then, brings pain.
I'm going to regret hitting send, but i hardly post in the forums anymore so i figure may as well do it in 1 hit.
if X is a real measure of "value", and "value" is then divided into parts and "symmetry broken", left to float across a pool of floating "currencies"...
then my comparison Y cannot properly be performed.. Value, as a floor turns into a "parallel universe" of fluctuating ocean waves...
the universe of all the other comparative assets in the heavens could expand, or contract...
relative to those comparative ocean waves, the comparison is.. moot. worthless.
Short term at least... those charts become useful for only triggering fear and greed, (and false AI pattern matching.)
we know the ocean waves of currency are crashing but.. .in comparison amoung themselves they only fluctuate.
I propose that: the currencies market Manipulates patterns into visibility for your trading decisions.
the fluctuation of currencies against each other MUST:
1: provide a suitable volatility to be a competitor of investor wealth.. so it must be ever changing.
2: it must conciel its own patterns of predictability.
3: it should conciel the predictable patterns of all other assets measured against each individual part. otherwise the cycles of the other assets would be exploited...
in order to maintain its value to society.
WHY?
take cocoa at the moment.
if that were a PERFECTLY predictable scenario then we would anticipate the future, and change the course of events to mitigate the problems that caused the problem that lead to increase of value.
any unfairly manipulated / up-traded investment would also be instantly visible.
some rich-investment into the product/assett would certainly be seen as greed and the value of the possession returned to fair value since "100 people" can only eat "100 people units" of cocoa...
if you but 1 years supply of cocoa then:
you are eating cocoa for 1 year and an not consume more.
owning more is simply asking to exploit others (usery) to obtain it..
its easier for those that know what the currency fluctuations are going to do, to manipulate the ownership of the other items in the market to ensure that those remain outside the hands of waste and rot.
Change Cocoa to Kilojoules for global human energy consumption needs, and look at the relative fluctuating waves of the food basket asserts... people people can pivot their required consumption requirements across those too...
youd be better off making up our own basket of things you want / need...
and compare gold and silver to that.
because you honestly, dont, want to end up with the medium of exchange....
as a medium of exchange.. it IS.. the variable denominator.
its not a charity drive to give value to people who hold it...
its the govs "facilitation of trade and fractional basis to lubricate the difference between the value of things..
overall.. THAT.. isnt EVER going to be a devise used to enact charity or welfare for the holders of it..
plus, taxes and capital gains are measured by it.
cant steal the "wealth created by time" if you cant prove or people dont believe the value of something has actually increased now can you?...
im totally bullish for silver and gold...
but i dont want currencies at all...
so id rather never trade out for them...
if they are worthless to me...
then that price is also.. meaningless.
everything is going crazy in the world and TBH...
wealthy people can only WASTE more.
i havent seen a 40,000 kilogram rich person who eats fields of cows, bananas, wheet and drinks 1000 liters of water a day for a while.
so im assuming owning all of that is really more of a responsibility not to blow it on corruption.
better use of the excess is:
use excess wter to grow more BLAH.
use excess BLAH to create more of the "desired" goods...
suddenly the waste is transformed again into great things...
sacrifice it on a mountaintop and the birds will eat it and feed the big preditors that kill the weak cows so that the strong cows breed muscle and the animal world doesnt turn into deformed useless fat blob trees that cant even walk...
fluctuations of corruption and waste is the real problem.
efficiency breeds growth.
deficiency then, brings pain.
I'm going to regret hitting send, but i hardly post in the forums anymore so i figure may as well do it in 1 hit.
Yeah, I can see how that makes sense.
What exactly is the picture capturing though?
- Human interest / disinterest?
- Industrial dependency changes?
- Mining efficiency or recycling patterns?
As an overall record of the price, Id agree with you that its a good picture of: the culmination of all those factors and what the result was reached at the end of each moment for that value decision.
And its value in Aud or Zimbabwe dollar may say something about the currency its measured against too...
and IMO I recon the market price IS accurate (it is what it is...)
but what exactly is it?
The price of a physical bar?
The price of ore in the ground?
or the price of a triangle (musical instrument) of 999 silver?
and exactly which one is the reliable reference?
For future price moves.. id be looking at exactly how each of these "players" prices move relative to one another...
if the are some price +- a value.. or +- a percentage.. then its linear..
if the fluctuate independently... even crossing at times...
then you have something really interesting for an indicator to work with.
is it different sources? programming errors. data delays?
data delays is interesting...
that may providing a leading or lagging indicator relative to the market players.
I mean.. if were looking at the physical market...
What exactly is the picture capturing though?
- Human interest / disinterest?
- Industrial dependency changes?
- Mining efficiency or recycling patterns?
As an overall record of the price, Id agree with you that its a good picture of: the culmination of all those factors and what the result was reached at the end of each moment for that value decision.
And its value in Aud or Zimbabwe dollar may say something about the currency its measured against too...
and IMO I recon the market price IS accurate (it is what it is...)
but what exactly is it?
The price of a physical bar?
The price of ore in the ground?
or the price of a triangle (musical instrument) of 999 silver?
and exactly which one is the reliable reference?
For future price moves.. id be looking at exactly how each of these "players" prices move relative to one another...
if the are some price +- a value.. or +- a percentage.. then its linear..
if the fluctuate independently... even crossing at times...
then you have something really interesting for an indicator to work with.
is it different sources? programming errors. data delays?
data delays is interesting...
that may providing a leading or lagging indicator relative to the market players.
I mean.. if were looking at the physical market...
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Haha..
I think that if theirs multiple markets listing prices for silver then the price isnt exactly central or agreed upon.
A market like forex will facilitate all possible profitable trades between buyers and sellers.
but not all buyers and sellers are participating at the same "booths" so to speak.
if one place offers buy back at spot but lists spot at 50c above the other markets spot price...
then they are just 'asking' for 5000oz bars to be moved out of warehouses, melted down and sold into the market.
unfortunately the time to do that and the cost of production isn't instantanious...
unless you already have some your willing to part with....
"That's what the market seeks to determine." id agree
"It doesn't always get it right though.": true that.... mabie its time to melt bullion and make thermal cpu paste... i dont know...
I think that if theirs multiple markets listing prices for silver then the price isnt exactly central or agreed upon.
A market like forex will facilitate all possible profitable trades between buyers and sellers.
but not all buyers and sellers are participating at the same "booths" so to speak.
if one place offers buy back at spot but lists spot at 50c above the other markets spot price...
then they are just 'asking' for 5000oz bars to be moved out of warehouses, melted down and sold into the market.
unfortunately the time to do that and the cost of production isn't instantanious...
unless you already have some your willing to part with....
"That's what the market seeks to determine." id agree
"It doesn't always get it right though.": true that.... mabie its time to melt bullion and make thermal cpu paste... i dont know...
Don't fukin lie shiney!
This is what you look like, you delusional old bloody substance abuser.
No wonder all the precious metals manipulation seems perfectly ok with you.
This is what you look like, you delusional old bloody substance abuser.
No wonder all the precious metals manipulation seems perfectly ok with you.
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