Male charged with theft of 1kg gold bar from Collins Street, Melbourne
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I also thought the headline of the article "Police nab gold plated thief" did not match up to the story.
Gold plated theif... I wonder if it was fraud related. Possibly 'obtain financial advantage by deception'? No mention of any plated bars in the story. Unless it was a display bar and the thief stole it assuming it to be a real bar!
Gold plated theif... I wonder if it was fraud related. Possibly 'obtain financial advantage by deception'? No mention of any plated bars in the story. Unless it was a display bar and the thief stole it assuming it to be a real bar!
DON'T believe anything you read in the papers 
Here are the facts without naming names
Person A handed over a dodgey cheque to company XXXXXXXXX last week
There was nobody in a senior position around to validate the cheque
The gold bar was sold to a dealer Wednesday & ALL PAPERWORK was done correctly
Thursday Police arrive at company ZZZZZZ ,as the con artist had a cheque in his pocket for the purchase
Which lead the wallopers (police ) to pay a visit to company ZZZZZZZ trying to seize the 1kg bar with no paper work at all
The proprietor was told to hand over the 1kg gold bar without any legal paperwork or receipt
They were told to go away & come back with the correct paperwork
15 minutes later they did come back with a warrant & a receipt for the bar
The proprietor was arrested for handling stolen goods
The person arrested was NOT the person who handled the transaction
The proprietor told the police ,if he knew it was stolen why would he pay him in cheque form & take down all his details
Would he not just pay him cash at around half price instead of market value
End of story
Here are the facts without naming names
Person A handed over a dodgey cheque to company XXXXXXXXX last week
There was nobody in a senior position around to validate the cheque
The gold bar was sold to a dealer Wednesday & ALL PAPERWORK was done correctly
Thursday Police arrive at company ZZZZZZ ,as the con artist had a cheque in his pocket for the purchase
Which lead the wallopers (police ) to pay a visit to company ZZZZZZZ trying to seize the 1kg bar with no paper work at all
The proprietor was told to hand over the 1kg gold bar without any legal paperwork or receipt
They were told to go away & come back with the correct paperwork
15 minutes later they did come back with a warrant & a receipt for the bar
The proprietor was arrested for handling stolen goods
The person arrested was NOT the person who handled the transaction
The proprietor told the police ,if he knew it was stolen why would he pay him in cheque form & take down all his details
Would he not just pay him cash at around half price instead of market value
End of story
spannermonkey said:DON'T believe anything you read in the papers
Here are the facts without naming names
Person A handed over a dodgey cheque to company XXXXXXXXX last week
There was nobody in a senior position around to validate the cheque
The gold bar was sold to a dealer Wednesday & ALL PAPERWORK was done correctly
Thursday Police arrive at company ZZZZZZ ,as the con artist had a cheque in his pocket for the purchase
Which lead the wallopers (police ) to pay a visit to company ZZZZZZZ trying to seize the 1kg bar with no paper work at all
The proprietor was told to hand over the 1kg gold bar without any legal paperwork or receipt
They were told to go away & come back with the correct paperwork
15 minutes later they did come back with a warrant & a receipt for the bar
The proprietor was arrested for handling stolen goods
The person arrested was NOT the person who handled the transaction
The proprietor told the police ,if he knew it was stolen why would he pay him in cheque form & take down all his details
Would he not just pay him cash at around half price instead of market value
End of story
That's F**ked.
I don't know where spannermonkey got his story from. But the facts are: Two people got charged a 23 year old and a 51 year old guy from Richmond, the 51 year old from Richmond is the guy that buys gold in the building I won't say his name out of respect all I can say is that he got charged because he did something wrong, eaither in paper work or he covered for the thief. For example if u find ur stolen things in a pawn shop, you can have them back or the police can take them away.BUT have u ever heard when the owner of the pawn shop gets charged? No way! unless the owner knew the goods where stolen or didn't record the transaction so was obstructing the police. I hope the 51 year old guy doesn't lose his second hand license as it would be the end of his business... he is a good guy, but obviously he screw up really bad and the police found out...
Nugget said:spannermonkey said:DON'T believe anything you read in the papers
Here are the facts without naming names
Person A handed over a dodgey cheque to company XXXXXXXXX last week
There was nobody in a senior position around to validate the cheque
The gold bar was sold to a dealer Wednesday & ALL PAPERWORK was done correctly
Thursday Police arrive at company ZZZZZZ ,as the con artist had a cheque in his pocket for the purchase
Which lead the wallopers (police ) to pay a visit to company ZZZZZZZ trying to seize the 1kg bar with no paper work at all
The proprietor was told to hand over the 1kg gold bar without any legal paperwork or receipt
They were told to go away & come back with the correct paperwork
15 minutes later they did come back with a warrant & a receipt for the bar
The proprietor was arrested for handling stolen goods
The person arrested was NOT the person who handled the transaction
The proprietor told the police ,if he knew it was stolen why would he pay him in cheque form & take down all his details
Would he not just pay him cash at around half price instead of market value
End of story
That's F**ked.
I've always found police to be a real coin toss.
Half the time I get a human being who is doing his best to help build a society we can all live togeather in, who understand human situations and grey areas, and will be logical and reasonable.
The rest of the time I get an A grade prick who just goes straight off the deep end at the slightest hint of you doing somethign reasonable like asking for a recipt for a FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR! item and will arrest you covered your back and made him get proper legal paperwork.
Even in these times of currency inflation I don't thin 55k is a negligible sum. it could easily be a small businesses operating profit for a year.
jaysilver said:
I got the facts from the horses mouth
1 - the 51 year old IS NOT FROM Richmond
2 - 24 year old from Tarneit man was arrested within 30 min after receiving the cheque Wednesday night
3 - The person charged was charged with handling stolen goods
4 - ALL the correct paperwork was done as per usual
AS I said before WHY would you give somebody a cheque if you knew the goods were stolen
WHY would you ask for the persons license & put everything down on paper
The person who sold the bar had they're name on the cheque
AS I SAID before
The person arrested was not the person who handled the transaction
BIG stuff up by the cops
Nugget said:
AND once again the papers can't get the details right
$9000 cash & cheque for $39,000
spannermonkey said:
He had $3500 cash on him when he was arrested
You guys are missing the point. The person that purchased the gold from the thief was charged along with the thief. They both were charged for a reason. If the police finds stolen goods at a pawn shop they simply recover them, and get the details of who sold the stolen item(s) from the records of the pawn shop. They don't go around charging the owners or operators of the pawn shop because he bought stolen goods. They only get charged when they got caught doing somthing they should not be doing!
jaysilver said:
You ASS U ME to know the facts ,from the newspaper article
What you are saying is the wallopers don't make mistakes
This is a big one for them
2ds said:
Or his a cop trying to stick up for his mates
jaysilver said:
I hope you are right jaysilver because the alternative is that the copper got angry at being told to do his/her job properly and to get the appropriate paperwork and decided to charge the bullion dealer. If the latter is the case then it wouldn't be the first time a cop has charged someone just because they were irritated.
From my understanding (1st hand, 2nd Hand, from the Police media office and from the newspapers), is that there are a number of facts that are yet to come out.
My concern here is that there are certain lines of investigation that need to be followed, and that the Police may not get to those things for whatever reason. (Jaysilver is not Robinson Crusoe when it comes to jumping to conclusions).
The evidence is what counts at the end of the day. I watch with intense interest to see if the appropriate lines of inquiry are followed. At least they've booked a hearing date after the Gold Symposium, so I'll be there.
My concern here is that there are certain lines of investigation that need to be followed, and that the Police may not get to those things for whatever reason. (Jaysilver is not Robinson Crusoe when it comes to jumping to conclusions).
The evidence is what counts at the end of the day. I watch with intense interest to see if the appropriate lines of inquiry are followed. At least they've booked a hearing date after the Gold Symposium, so I'll be there.
