Late night insomnia thoughts Donald trump winning and Precious metals

[Eliassamaha]

If Donald trump wins then that would send the world into a crisis devaluate the dollars and send pm Prices to the moon, right?

 

[BuggedOut]

Who knows? I personally think the establishment and central bankers are less likely to keep propping things up (kicking the can) if trump wins and also Trump is less likely to want to bail out big banks. Read into that what you like. 2+2=5??

 

[SpacePete]

No significant change. The president is a figurehead.

 

[ego2spare]

If Donald trump wins then that would send the world into a crisis devaluate the dollars and send pm Prices to the moon, right?

No, not at all... if trump wins, we will be shot.

 

[SpacePete]

If Donald trump wins then that would send the world into a crisis devaluate the dollars and send pm Prices to the moon, right?

No, not at all... if trump wins, we will be shot.

Before or after building the wall?

 

[Skyrocket]

I bet you the establishment has something up it's sleeve to make Hilary Clinton (the career criminal) win presidency. :/

 

[Guest]

Trump or Clinton. Looks like we are in for trouble either way.

 

[ego2spare]

If Donald trump wins then that would send the world into a crisis devaluate the dollars and send pm Prices to the moon, right?

No, not at all... if trump wins, we will be shot.

Before or after building the wall?

Before, within the first few days/weeks. But hopefully after the wall....just to tech America a lesson for being so god damn stupid.

 

[SpacePete]

Trump or Clinton. Looks like we are in for trouble either way.

Double trouble. Just imagine the possibilities for a comedy-romance movie.

 

[serial]

If Donald trump wins then that would send the world into a crisis devaluate the dollars and send pm Prices to the moon, right?

No, not at all... if trump wins, we will be shot.

Before or after building the wall?

simple, convince Trump that Mexicans are vampires and that he has to make the wall out of silver to stop them then watch demand for silver push prices up.

But seriously I think Trump has a business man like plan to deal with the economy that will push the price of silver/gold up in USD
he will simply print the money needed to settle all foreign debt, de-monetize the old dollars then re-issue new "Trump" dollars that are backed by silver/gold thus re establishing the USD brand an minimising the fall out of his fiscal actions.
I also think that the way he is getting support to discriminate against foreigners mean that he will be able to implement some sort of policy that with allow American citizens to exchange their old dollars for new and minimise the domestic fallout

 

[JustNick]

If Donald trump wins then that would send the world into a crisis devaluate the dollars and send pm Prices to the moon, right?

What makes you think so?

 

[REDBACK]

No, not at all... if trump wins, we will be shot.

Before or after building the wall?

Before, within the first few days/weeks. But hopefully after the wall....just to tech America a lesson for being so god damn stupid.

http://i68.tinypic.com/jl41gx.jpg

Americans aren't stupid just victims of well oiled publicity machine devoted & dominated to & by money,media,banking and corrupt politicians
Trump may just be the catalyst that ignites the winds of permanent change who knows.
The alternative for the American people is stick with what they have which as Eliassamaha pointed out would send them into a spiral of.what they already have

It would be interesting to compare the border controls of other countries to that of the US

On a lighter note why aren't people getting upset at the Chinese????
You can see their friggen wall from space!!!
Granted they didn't ask Mexico for money


REDBACK

 

[JulieW]

For anyone interested, this article from The Atlantic, is quite insightful.

Trump isn't easily summarised and the author describes potential decisions and actions based upon Trump's psychoanalysis.

It is very difficult to predict the actions a president will take. When the dust settled after the 2000 election, did anybody foresee that George W. Bush would someday launch a preemptive invasion of Iraq? If so, I haven't read about it. Bush probably would never have gone after Saddam Hussein if 9/11 had not happened. But world events invariably hijack a presidency. Obama inherited a devastating recession, and after the 2010 midterm elections, he struggled with a recalcitrant Republican Congress. What kinds of decisions might he have made had these events not occurred? We will never know.
Mark Peterson / Redux

Still, dispositional personality traits may provide clues to a president's decision-making style. Research suggests that extroverts tend to take high-stakes risks and that people with low levels of openness rarely question their deepest convictions. Entering office with high levels of extroversion and very low openness, Bush was predisposed to make bold decisions aimed at achieving big rewards, and to make them with the assurance that he could not be wrong. As I argued in my psychological biography of Bush, the game-changing decision to invade Iraq was the kind of decision he was likely to make. As world events transpired to open up an opportunity for the invasion, Bush found additional psychological affirmation both in his lifelong desirepursued again and again before he ever became presidentto defend his beloved father from enemies (think: Saddam Hussein) and in his own life story, wherein the hero liberates himself from oppressive forces (think: sin, alcohol) to restore peace and freedom.

Like Bush, a President Trump might try to swing for the fences in an effort to deliver big payoffsto make America great again, as his campaign slogan says. As a real-estate developer, he has certainly taken big risks, although he has become a more conservative businessman following setbacks in the 1990s. As a result of the risks he has taken, Trump can (and does) point to luxurious urban towers, lavish golf courses, and a personal fortune that is, by some estimates, in the billions, all of which clearly bring him big psychic rewards. Risky decisions have also resulted in four Chapter 11 business bankruptcies involving some of his casinos and resorts. Because he is not burdened with Bush's low level of openness (psychologists have rated Bush at the bottom of the list on this trait), Trump may be a more flexible and pragmatic decision maker, more like Bill Clinton than Bush: He may look longer and harder than Bush did before he leaps. And because he is viewed as markedly less ideological than most presidential candidates (political observers note that on some issues he seems conservative, on others liberal, and on still others nonclassifiable), Trump may be able to switch positions easily, leaving room to maneuver in negotiations with Congress and foreign leaders. But on balance, he's unlikely to shy away from risky decisions that, should they work out, could burnish his legacy and provide him an emotional payoff.

The real psychological wild card, however, is Trump's agreeablenessor lack thereof. There has probably never been a U.S. president as consistently and overtly disagreeable on the public stage as Donald Trump is. If Nixon comes closest, we might predict that Trump's style of decision making would look like the hard-nosed realpolitik that Nixon and his secretary of state, Henry Kissinger, displayed in international affairs during the early 1970s, along with its bare-knuckled domestic analog. That may not be all bad, depending on one's perspective. Not readily swayed by warm sentiments or humanitarian impulses, decision makers who, like Nixon, are dispositionally low on agreeableness might hold certain advantages when it comes to balancing competing interests or bargaining with adversaries, such as China in Nixon's time. In international affairs, Nixon was tough, pragmatic, and coolly rational. Trump seems capable of a similar toughness and strategic pragmatism, although the cool rationality does not always seem to fit, probably because Trump's disagreeableness appears so strongly motivated by anger.

In domestic politics, Nixon was widely recognized to be cunning, callous, cynical, and Machiavellian, even by the standards of American politicians. Empathy was not his strong suit. This sounds a lot like Donald Trump, tooexcept you have to add the ebullient extroversion, the relentless showmanship, and the larger-than-life celebrity. Nixon could never fill a room the way Trump can.

Research shows that people low in agreeableness are typically viewed as untrustworthy. Dishonesty and deceit brought down Nixon and damaged the institution of the presidency. It is generally believed today that all politicians lie, or at least dissemble, but Trump appears extreme in this regard. Assessing the truthfulness of the 2016 candidates' campaign statements, PolitiFact recently calculated that only 2 percent of the claims made by Trump are true, 7 percent are mostly true, 15 percent are half true, 15 percent are mostly false, 42 percent are false, and 18 percent are "pants on fire." Adding up the last three numbers (from mostly false to flagrantly so), Trump scores 75 percent. The corresponding figures for Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Bernie Sanders, and Hillary Clinton, respectively, are 66, 32, 31, and 29 percent.

In sum, Donald Trump's basic personality traits suggest a presidency that could be highly combustible. One possible yield is an energetic, activist president who has a less than cordial relationship with the truth. He could be a daring and ruthlessly aggressive decision maker who desperately desires to create the strongest, tallest, shiniest, and most awesome resultand who never thinks twice about the collateral damage he will leave behind. Tough. Bellicose. Threatening. Explosive.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/the-mind-of-donald-trump/480771/

 

[JulieW]

And a good reason to pray that Trump gets elected. Look at what the Nobel Peace prize winner has lined up and consider that Hillary would press the button if she thought it would get her a second term:

Actions speak louder than mere words, and U.S. President Barack Obama has now acted, not only spoken. His action is to refuse to discuss with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Russia's biggest worry about recent changes in America's nuclear strategy - a particularly stunning change that is terrifying Putin.

On Sunday June 5th, Reuters headlined "Russia Says U.S. Refuses Talks on Missile Defence System", and reported that, "The United States has refused Russian offers to discuss Washington's missile defence programme, Russian Deputy Defence Minister Anatoly Antonov was quoted as saying on Sunday, calling the initiative 'very dangerous'."

Russia's concern is that, if the "Ballistic Missile Defense" or "Anti Ballistic Missile" system, that the United States is now just starting to install on and near Russia's borders, works, then the United States will be able to launch a surprise nuclear attack against Russia, and this system, which has been in development for decades and is technically called the "Aegis Ashore Missile Defense System", will annihilate the missiles that Russia launches in retaliation, which will then leave the Russian population with no retaliation at all, except for the nuclear contamination of the entire northern hemisphere, and global nuclear winter, the blowback from America's onslaught against Russia, which blowback some strategists in the West say would be manageable probems for the U.S. and might be worth the cost of eliminating Russia.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...discuss-very-dangerous-missile-defense-system

 

[Davros10]

In sum, Donald Trump's basic personality traits suggest a presidency that could be highly combustible. One possible yield is an energetic, activist president who has a less than cordial relationship with the truth. He could be a daring and ruthlessly aggressive decision maker who desperately desires to create the strongest, tallest, shiniest, and most awesome resultand who never thinks twice about the collateral damage he will leave behind. Tough. Bellicose. Threatening. Explosive.

Just what 1930's Germany needs to make them great again.

 

[JulieW]

But Trump is an isolationist.

Though I do wonder if he was seriously proposing taking the Iraq oil fields as reparations. (Reparations for what I can't imagine!)

 

[fscked]

For anyone interested, this article from The Atlantic, is quite insightful.

Trump isn't easily summarised and the author describes potential decisions and actions based upon Trump's psychoanalysis.

Adding up the last three numbers (from mostly false to flagrantly so), Trump scores 75 percent. The corresponding figures for Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Bernie Sanders, and Hillary Clinton, respectively, are 66, 32, 31, and 29 percent.

Hillary Clintons statements are only 29% false? What a completely unbiased article :lol:

Even children can tell that Hillary lies through her teeth at every opportunity to get what she wants. She is probably the most dishonest person to ever stand for election. EVER.. She has literally been caught out lying on everything she has been involved with over the last 8 years.

 

[mmissinglink]

Anyone who doesn't think that either Democrats or Republicans don't have a disaster of an individual as their presumptive nominee is either a political hack or is just not paying close enough attention.


Never in my memory could it be truer that Americans will be electing the worse of the two evils in November (assuming it will be Trump vs Clinton).




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[Jim4silver]

Anyone who doesn't think that either Democrats or Republicans don't have a disaster of an individual as their presumptive nominee is either a political hack or is just not paying close enough attention.


Never in my memory could it be truer that Americans will be electing the worse of the two evils in November (assuming it will be Trump vs Clinton).




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Just curious, you think Trump and Clinton are worse than Obama?


PS Look at what the current prez has allowed to happen. Funny, I don't hear folks on this blog saying anything bad about Obama? Why is that, just the sound of crickets. But lots of crap about Trump. I guess many here think Obama is a great prez and approve of his making the US into a progressive socialist utopia?

I don't care how bad Trump may behave or his crazy hair style, I'll take it- if it means stopping these turtle-heading policies.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/feds-spend-nearly-20000-to-settle-every-refugee/article/2593331\


Here is another great idea from this administration. Did you all know our national debt in the US doubled under the current administration (from roughly $10 Trillion to nearly $20 Trillion)? Yet everyone hates on Trump. LOL!

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/a...-program-reaching-500-million/article/2593375

Just my opinion.

Jim