Kazakhstan (The Great Commanders) - Attila the Hun - Scourge of God

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Hello!

INTROUDCTION (blah, blah)
I apologize if similar topic already exist. I've searched and didn't find it.

I've decided to post some coins here which are maybe less known and would be maybe interesting for all 3 people here that are collecting "East" coins. :P

I own this coin and will maybe someday take pictures of it. There is series of 3 coins, called The Great Commanders.

I'm huge fan of Roman (Empire) era history (Republic, Empire, Barbarian invasions, etc.). Looks like there are many coincidences related with me and this coin.
I was searching for another biography about Attila the Hun (the guy that made Roman Empire shaking like 12 year old girl when facing Justin Timberlake :P). And it clicked. I need this coin.
And I bought it. It's actually very nice. Much nicer than on picture. As always. ;)

But today another coincidence happened. Looks like this coin get COTY (based on eBay seller - see bellow) for most "historically significant event" coin in the Coin of the Year Awards, 2011 (?). Will try to find more info.

Coin can be obtained fairly "cheap", for 80 Euros. It's not 999/1000 silver, but f**k it.:)

I'm pasting some pictures here from some dude from California (seller mdrca) and its description. Hopefully it wouldn't care. I'm not selling this coin and hopefully this will not happen ever, since it's one of my favorite.:)

PICS from eBay auction:
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A little rotated to make it look sexier.

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Rome will tremble!

COIN DATA:
Country: Kazakhstan
Year of issue: 2009
Face value: 100 tenge
Metal and purity: 925/1000
Weight: 31,1 g
Diameter: 38.61 mm
Mintage quantity: 13 000 pcs
Features: Gold gilding, makes Romans shaking
Taken from: cis-coins.com

DESCRIPTION:
The coin "Attila" is dedicated to the king and general of the Hunnic Empire which stretched from Germany to the Ural River and from the River Danube to the Baltic Sea.Called the Scourge of God by the Romans, Attila the Hun was was one of the most fearsome of the Western and Eastern Roman Empires' enemies.

On the obverse of the coin there is the embossed image of a brave warrior prancing on a horse. To the right of the image there is the inscription of the coin's face value and the trademark of Kazakhstan Mint of the National Bank of Kazakhstan below it. The upper part of the coin comprises the State Emblem of the Republic of Kazakhstan. There is also the inscription of the coin's mintage year below the image. Along the rim of the coin there are the inscriptions "National Bank Of Kazakhstan" both in Kazakh and English.

The reverse side of the coin features the gilded image of Attila the Hun with the semiabstract image of three galloping warriors below it. Having become a military leader Attila inherited the Scythian hordes who were disorganized and weakened by internal strife. His first order of affairs was to unite his subjects for the purpose of creating one of the most formidable and feared armies Asia had ever seen. The reverse also includes the legends "Ag 925" and "31,1 gr." indicating the designation of metal, its fineness and the coin's pure weight. The upper part of the coin comprises the inscription "Attila the Hun" and the one indicating Attila's years of living. The lateral surface of the coin is grooved.
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Taken from: cis-coins.com

COTY(eBay seller mdrca):
Offered is a 2009 Kazakhstan 100 Tenge silver proof coin. Features image of Attila the Hun on obverse. Scroll beneath depicts warriors. Reverse shows mounted warrior on attack. This is the second issue in the award winning "the Great Commanders" series offered by the National Bank of the Republic of Kazakhstan. This coin was voted the "most historically significant event" coin in the Coin of the Year Awards, 2011 (second year in a row for this coin series). See listings for other coins in this series.
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I have two coins that won COTY in 2011, but not this one.
The Attila the Hun coin was one of the ten nominees in "Most Historically Significant Coin"category(October 06, 2010)
http://numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=14721

... and after four months Krause Publications posted this article:

"There were 10 category awards given at the COTY ceremony.
Named Most Historically Significant was a 100-tenge silver coin from the Kazakhstan Mint for Attila the Hun.
Accepting the award trophy and certificate was Farit Tuganbayev, the mint's director."

http://numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=17601
 
This is a strange series because Poland struck the first 3 coins, including the AtH (2009) coin, with what I think are cool designs, issued from Kazakhstan. I love the gold part on this coin especially. They also did a Genghis Khan (2008) and a Queen Tomiris (2010) issue...

THEN they released another Great Commanders coin, dedicated to Sitting Bull (2010), but the coin was issued out of Niue and had a completely different style, with colour printing on it. At first I thought they were a different series, just with the same name but I got confirmation from Poland that it was classed as being the same series...after that they released a Napoleon (2010), Mikhail Kutuzov (2010) & Alexander the Great (2011) coins in colour and then last year changed again and issued the Hannibal Barkas (2012) with no colour but instead with coloured crystals! Haven't heard of any others coming out since then but those first 3, which includes the Attila coin, are by far the best of the series in my opinion.
 
"Kazahstan coins. They are naice"

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SILVERCOINSSHOW and xrayspecs, thanks for the additional info. :) I really appreciate it.

Sadly they messed the series with different "design types". :/ Although I still plan to have first three. ;)

Jcoin, hahaha. :) Those who believe that everything in Borat is true would be probably very disappointed when visiting Kazahkstan. :D
 
Obviously, Attila is historically relevant to Hungary, not Kazakhstan. Just that the latter have minted these coins...
 
The Horde was moving so it has some sort of "European idea" (born in one country, working in another, having holidays in 3rd...) in it.^^

As well as others aren't related to Kazakhstan (Napoleon, Kutuzov, etc.).

EDIT:
The Hun Empire also includes (parts) of Kazakhstan, so there is some sort of releation. :) Also they came from far far East, so it's really hard to say that their origin are from Hungary. :)
 
I am in love with "Gold of Nomads" series but new "Petroglyphs of Kazakhstan" looks nice too
 
Stark said:
The Horde was moving so it has some sort of "European idea" (born in one country, working in another, having holidays in 3rd...) in it.^^

As well as others aren't related to Kazakhstan (Napoleon, Kutuzov, etc.).

EDIT:
The Hun Empire also includes (parts) of Kazakhstan, so there is some sort of releation. :) Also they came from far far East, so it's really hard to say that their origin are from Hungary. :)
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Correction:
I did not affirm that the Huns were from Hungary.
I said the Huns were relevant to Hungary, not Kazakhstan.

The Hungarian people are believed to have a deep connection/link, descendants even of the Huns (in part, at least - people do mix, especially in Europe).
The Hungarian people have deep proven Asian roots: language is not Indo-European (has links with various Central Asian languages), ancient myths, symbols, not to mention chronicle sources, which link Hungarians with the Huns - even if the two are not equal. Hungarians have migrated to the respective parts of Europe from Asia.

"Attila" is a very popular Hungarian name. One could say, just as popular as John in England and Jaques in France.

Pannonia is where today's Hungary lies and it was the place where Attila and the Hunnish Empire had their main base. This was the central part of the Empire. Like Rome was to the Roman Empire (the latter has collapsed after the wars with the Huns).
The Huns' Empire even stretched to today's France...

Attila - the historical personality is considered a national hero in Hungary, where the Huns are regarded as ancestors.
The grave of Attila the Hun is located somewhere (still not determined) in today's Hungary. The exact burial place is not known.

Also: the myths, stories about Attila, as well as paintings are abundant in Hungarian culture.

The Huns to the Hungarians are like the "Gauls" to the French...

Oh, and... did you notice that "HUN" and "HUNGARIAN" actually sound similar? ;)

This coin is part of a set "great commanders" - commanders which are all foreign to Kazakhstan - one of them is a Hun, the other is Mongol, the third is Mamluk Turk from today's Egypt.
Various countries around the word create various coins. Not necessarily about their own historical personalities.
 
Sorry, I maybe have misread. :)

(Ancient) Rome (Empire) is one of my favorite history periods, if not favorite, although I've forgotten many things.:) Have some books about Attila at home. It's hard to get some decent historic biographies in our language. You have plenty of them in English, but I don't read so fast in English, and time is great factor nowadays, sadly. :)

Kazakhstan "official" (country) pages are claiming that there were huge presence of Huns in their steps.

Yeah, Hungarian language is very different than other European language. This group is called Finno-Ugric.

Since Hungary is our neighbor country (East of us) and some of Hungairan minority lives in our North East part of the country we have some TV shows in their language. I can't understand anything. :) Is similar as listening to some Arabic or Asian language. Totally different thing. This part of our country is also part of Pannonia.

I would say, without probably offending anybody, that here is much more "Huns" in Hungarians that is (ancient) Romans in Italians or ancient Greeks in nowadays Greek. There were many migrations thought the centuries, but I think that Hungarians remained somehow "isolated".

Yes, there are a lot of Attila there.:)

It's sad that so many things from the past is gone and it's really hard to find evidence (not just that history area).

Is quite often that many countries "fight" of birth place of (significant) historic persons. For example: both Croatia and Italy are claiming that was born in their country. But that's another story. :)

I didn't think this topic would get so "much" attention. :)
I will try to find some nice pictures of other coin as well.

If any other has some info, don't be shy. ;)
 
The Huns' Empire even stretched to today's France...

The French Rugby Union team can vouch for that...

Sebastian Chabal comes to mind :D
 
This is a great coin, well-designed and would be quite adequate as an investment coin as well.

I think it's bi-metal. I read somewhere that it's gold-plated in the central area, but I'm not sure. Most sources state just the silver - which is .925.

92.5 % is quite good. They could have made it 99.9 %, I don't know why they didn't! It's just that slight difference...

I would love to see more bi-metal coins...
 
TreasureHunter said:
This is a great coin, well-designed and would be quite adequate as an investment coin as well.

I think it's bi-metal. I read somewhere that it's gold-plated in the central area, but I'm not sure. Most sources state just the silver - which is .925.

92.5 % is quite good. They could have made it 99.9 %, I don't know why they didn't! It's just that slight difference...

I would love to see more bi-metal coins...
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The central area is gold-plated. I don't call these bi-metal, just selectively gold-plated. Bi-metal to me are like the Austrian Silver & Niobium coins, but to each their own :)

The first 3 coins in this series have selective gold-plating, however for me the Attila coin is by far the best example of it
 
All coins from Kazakhstan "Space" series are bi-metal. Silver 925 - 14,6 gr. and Tantalum - 38,61 gr
 
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