Is the SHTF?

trew said:
Ok someone please spell out a scenario that does not involve war or natural disaster that would result in food and other supplies suddenly becoming unavailable and bartering becoming necessary.

Keep in mind that Cyprus shut their banks for 2 weeks and society didn't break down

I can't think of one but perhaps my paranoia is not creative enough
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Talking to the rels who were in Cyprus at the time, they are a community that grows and preserves a lot of their food. It is also semi rural even in the larger cities and towns so they just managed. The capital cities here wouldn't stand a chance. Meanwhile, the middle class has taken a 60% haircut on their savings and super. How they would have wished to drain their accounts!

Great coincidence today, I am down at the Sydney Botanic Garden where my wife mans the information booth a couple of times a month. There was a slow food bush tucker talk that I attended for the last 2 hours. Nuts, medicinal herbs, fruits, all in abundance; me, I'm just going to head to the pond and catch a duck!
 
markcoinoz said:
On a brighter note, if a SHTF situation, the only thing that could cause immediate interruption
would be a major collapse of the Internet. Lets face it, nearly all banking and business transactions evolve
through the internet. OK, its not the be it to end all. However, it would cause a lot of panic and disorder.
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Not possible - the Internet was originally designed by the US military as a network that could not be taken down by an enemy.
There are many connections involving many different companies and providers spanning all over the world.

In any case, most financial transactions between businesses and banks (ie. when you use your Visa in a shop) do not travel over the Internet.
 
Agnostic said:
I consider the last-minute shopping trip as a bonus, a possible supplement to the supplies I already have on hand. Nice if I can make it happen, but if it doesn't, I will be ok.

Another factor to consider is that it might be physically dangerous to be fighting throught the crowds to get that last can of baked beans.

And its not only shop shelves that could empty, its ATMs.

Imagine a scenario in the last hours of the existing paradigm. There are still a few sacks of rice left at the local supermarket, and you have managed to grab them before anyone else, BUT...you only have a little cash, the ATM is out of cash and the EFT lines have gone down. = No Sale.

Cheers,

Agnostic
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No Cash...No rice..Never a truer word said...Here in Bundaberg when the floods hit, cash was king...ATM's couldn't be operated.

The best advice you can get is google up about the depression in Argentina.. Then you then know what goods to store/trade...

Regards Errol 43
 
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