toorak13 said:I think that's your assumption that silver will got to $30....what happen if it go down to $15 like CHIP said
CHIPPO or CHEAPMUNK?
toorak13 said:I think that's your assumption that silver will got to $30....what happen if it go down to $15 like CHIP said
betterinvestmentthanshare said:Gorth said:Did you perhaps mean CPI? Or does GDP not mean gross domestic product in the UK?ScottyRS said:My savings account interest isn't far off 1% but GDP is 2%...
Either way, I have had some fair returns in the past, using 3 month term deposits with deposit amounts in the vicinity of $100k. But those returns were of course taxed and reduced by inflation.
There's probably smarter ways of investing than bank term deposits but that's what I did.
But why not add silver into the mix? The thing is, there's no guarantee either way. Silver will not appreciate your wealth if it sits in the doldrums, and there's the premium gap to jump over when selling, but a 3% return from a bank is not going to be of any benefit if inflation jumps to 3%.
The good thing about silver is that unless you choose to sell, any decline in the physical mass of the metal in your posession will remain negligible for periods shorter than, say a trillion years.
He did say he only had "half a brain"
Things that are remembered are good....Caput Lupinum said:Oh Pirocco, you're funny......in a Dustin Hoffman (Rainman) kinda way
lshallperish said:here in australia we have interest rates at 5%...
scrooged said:trew said:betterinvestmentthanshare said:..who the hell can get rid of 1000 ounces of physical silver in one hit while the price rides high.
Easy as piss
Just before the price of silver plunged below $40 I saw a dealer walk into W Davis wheeling a large travel luggage suitcase.
He pulled out over 100 silver kilo bars, threw the bundles of cash into the suitcase and left.
Are you suggesting W Davis isn't very good at this caper?
That's not very nice.![]()
betterinvestmentthanshare said:Who the hell wants to lug around 1000 ounces of silver...........................who the hell can get rid of 1000 ounces of physical silver in one hit while the price rides high.
I see buy back at under spot from the retailer, which means you have to do a hell of a lot of selling to the public to get rid of a 1000 oz of silver for a better price than what the retailer will give you........................the selling cost and time out weigh owning bulk silver by a mile.
Gold is so much easier.
trew said:betterinvestmentthanshare said:..who the hell can get rid of 1000 ounces of physical silver in one hit while the price rides high.
Easy as piss
Just before the price of silver plunged below $40 I saw a dealer walk into W Davis wheeling a large travel luggage suitcase.
He pulled out over 100 silver kilo bars, threw the bundles of cash into the suitcase and left.
toorak13 said:I think that's your assumption that silver will got to $30....what happen if it go down to $15 like CHIP said
Pirocco said:Assumptions and what if's, those two words describe this entire topic.
Whether silver, or anything, is better or not than whatever, depends on your trading behaviour.
If you buy higher and sell lower, it's tends to be worser.
Intrest rate on bank deposits is nearly always lower than general price risings.
The sole exception is a period of ginormous economical progress, and even then, central planning thieves quickly crank up their theft too.
The situation like it now is, since some years, is one of big amounts money on bank deposits.
That's the reason that intrest rates are so low, and that is the single Capital problem that the central planners now face. All that deposited money actually wasn't saved, it was lend out, spent, and drove prices up. Those that spent it, bought products with it, and those products aren't thus anymore available when the bank depositors decide to spend. Basically they lost their purchasing power.
And that's why the crisis, and the efforts from the central planning thieves to drive bank depositors into paying temporary bloated prices of certain stuff (including stocks).
In the light of the current economical progress outlook, it doesn't matter anymore whether or not they will succeed in this. All they can is trying to shift as much borrowed property into finalized ownership, before the larger part discovers the situation.
There are many indicators pointing to this dead-end.
For ex, since 2000, in my country, 36% of the butchers, 30% of the fish shops, 23% of the bakers, 19.5% of the grocery stores and 30% of the newspapershops disappeared.
This market was overtaken by smaller scale local supers, that increased with 64%
And a next phase of this process started. Those small scale local supers, lost last year 9.5% of their market share, to hard discount big supermarkets.
It's clear what the next, and final stage is: only the biggest ones left, and beyond that, nothing. This is a blueprint for economical destruction. It could be compared with nature, many lifeforms, many specific adaptations to many specific situations, provide the ability to keep life going on by overcoming distorting events. The same applies to economy: once you reduce the whole to a few sorts of a few kinds, it becomes vulnerable, upto a degree that small distorting events already suffice to bring the entirety to its end.
The same applies to an economical core market: housing.
The last decade, the central planning crappers did all they can to prevent house prices to drop. By sponsoring going in debt for a house. In 2005, government introduced a new supportive measure, a bonus (basically a tax reduction). It was so called geared towards making housing more affordable. Bullshit of course. It had, as we can expect from any State measure, the very opposite effect: over 9 years, house prices rose 28%.
And there the major problem pops up: they can't just stop that measure. Because house prices would nearly immediately collapse by a same %. The market, and the banks, and their system, would end up a same way as the US in 2008.
The problem I have with a term deposit at a bank, is that I 'undergo' then. I don't control anymore. I'm depending on what they decide. And the longer it last, the more their decisions will have accumulated my purchasing power loss.
So, I chosed to buy stuff instead, silver being an example. It isn't better so far, and maybe never will, not due to the metal but due to my bad purchase decisions.
Those that bought when spot was under $20 certainly will end up better then me. And not due to silver, but due to their better decision. This topics question is like asking if a blue ball is better than a red ball. It's not the color of the ball that decides that, it's the one kicking it.
iluvbeanz said:lshallperish said:here in australia we have interest rates at 5%...
Is this true? Here in America, I get a pathetic 0.03% interest keeping money in my savings account.
Every purchase of 1000 ounces implies someone succeeding in selling 1000 ounces. Transferred physical or not moved paper represented physical, is just a choice people made based on their own preferences and goals.betterinvestmentthanshare said:who the hell can get rid of 1000 ounces of physical silver in one hit while the price rides high.